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Author Topic: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?  (Read 2217 times)

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Offline uphoosier

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Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« on: July 26, 2008, 08:17:10 PM »
This blown vase with an optic pattern is about 7 3/4" tall.  The feet and prunts are applied.  The prunts around the top are not broken, they are made to look like coat hooks.  I don't even know where to begin on this one.  Any suggestions on where to start research regarding origin or even century?  Thanks for looking.
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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2008, 12:22:25 AM »
I wonder whether the hooks would have been used for blown glass baskets? There are some shown on p. 183-184, Victorian Decorative Glass Mervyn Gulliver, ISBN 0-7643-1597-8. According to Gulliver, the baskets were little vases. If that were true, you could be looking at a Victorian piece. The acanthus leaf feet also suggest Victorian. Please wait for someone else's opinion though as I'm well out of my comfort zone here!

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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2008, 01:43:33 PM »
It's the sort of thing Leni is good with methinks.
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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2008, 02:23:08 PM »
I thought I had a picture of a piece like this in a book but couldn't find it!  :spls:  Seems like it had a glass chain and was connected to goblets or around goblets like for a wedding ceremony.  If I ever find the picture I'll mark it and let you know!  Sorry, that's not much help.
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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2008, 09:05:05 PM »
Thanks for the comments.  I searched for examples of "wedding goblets with chains" and about all I came up with was a souvenir goblet with a decal of Leatherface from Texas Chainsaw Massacre. ;)  In my searches, I found very similar feet, particularly with all three being done in a single application, from early 19th century Boston and Sandwich Glass.  I have had no luck at all with the hooks, however.

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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2008, 07:02:31 AM »
Hi Uphoosier, Janice.

Janice, that sounds more credible, and it's ringing a bell... Here is a set of thorn vases from the same era. They would have been connected by chains.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,17691.0.html

Gulliver has a few illustrations from the British Design Register of sets of glasses which attached to vases with chains, in the configuration that Janice mentions. You'd imagine that they'd be awfully impractical! Leni would know more.

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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2008, 11:38:12 AM »
Thanks Cathy!  I did find a picture of a vase with chains in the Fostoria book but they had wire hooks and it wasn't what I was thinking of.  Years ago while in a town about 80 miles south I saw some glass chain.  They wanted too much for it but it was neat.  The links on that piece were big, 1" long. 
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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2008, 02:45:37 PM »
Thanks to all for the references.  I've recently moved to a very small town with a corresponding size library, so the specific book citations are a big help in ordering books.  I did look through my American Glass book and had no luck finding any "horn" pieces.   Seeing the older thread about Leni's set was very helpful.. Thanks again, and if anyone has any other ideas, I would appreciate a comment.
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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2008, 05:53:54 PM »
There are a few sets with glass chains by Sinclaire shown in Sinclaire and Spillman, The Complete Cut and Engraved Glass of Corning.  You can hardly see the photos, but I've seen pictures of others, too.  They're called (in the US) "centerpieces" and have a center vase and several smaller vases, like Leni's set. 

The shape of this is pretty distinctive, and those feet intrigue me.  Is the pattern a single matching design on every foot?  I don't think I've ever seen such an elaborate foot design constructed in that way.  What do you call a tool that leaves an impression like that?
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Re: Blown optic vase with applied "hooks"?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2008, 07:24:06 PM »
The design is matching on all three feet.  It appears to be pressed from the front with a corresponding slight protrusion on the back.  I'll spend some time later with some of my glass books to see if I can come up with any info on this technique.

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