Topic: Dartington, Frank Thrower?? Or Ravenhead Flair Lotus, or Lasisepat?

[rosieposie]

I suppose there could be several different moulds, each one cast from an original 'hand blown' piece?? Where did you find this latest one m? Boot fair or eBay?

[rosieposie]

Just when we thought we had got this one safely wrapped up, someone comes along and throws a spanner in the works!  :hb1:
I was looking under all Scandinavian glass to see if there was another of these incorrectly listed, when I found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130253360190

I wonder who the helpful eBayer was who told them it was a Kosta Boda, Ann Warff piece? (How do you get the two little dots over the 'a' by the way?)

Hey ho!  I don't care what they call them.....I just want a set, but boy do you have to work hard to find things on eBay!  Before anyone tells me there is a seller with two for sale under the Frank Thrower title, I know, but he wants too much for them!!

[Anne]

Rosie, I wonder if they have confused theirs with the known Wärff design as shown here:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2902 (the ä can be produced by holding down the ALT key and pressing 0228 on the number pad.)

[Pip]

Rosie, I wonder if they have confused theirs with the known Wärff design as shown here:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2902 (the ä can be produced by holding down the ALT key and pressing 0228 on the number pad.)

Yes or perhaps they're thinking of the Warff designed 'Sunflower' - as below:-

http://www.pips-trip.co.uk/sold-glass-archives/scandinavian-glass-1/showitem-BODA-SUNFGW.aspx

[flying free]

http://www.c20c.com/glass/product5.html
hope that works?
m

[smokerstill]

I have one of these vases and I was under the impression it was by Frank Thrower has anyone resolved the issue conclusively?

[smokerstill]

I just googled Lasisepat and the entire result was either this thread or ebay does anyone have a web address for info on them?

[Pip]

I have one of these vases and I was under the impression it was by Frank Thrower has anyone resolved the issue conclusively?

They're definitely NOT Dartington/Thrower - they don't appear in any of the catalogues and we've seen stickered examples from Laissiepat - that's pretty conclusive IMO.

[rosieposie]

You are absolutely correct Pip, I have letters from the archivists at Dartington, confirming that these vases are NOT Dartington.  Now, that is straight from the horses mouth, and was my main reason for 'carping on' earlier.

I enclose a copy of Caroline Blight's letter to me:

"This design has never been a standard production range for Dartington
Crystal and so I think your thoughts of it being Scandinavian could
possibly be correct. Having liased with Hilary Green again and consulted our
archive here there is no such design and so I am afraid I am unable to
give you any further information.
Regards,
Caroline."

Is that conclusive enough??

[Lustrousstone]

A pedant would argue on seeing that letter "maybe not for Dartington CRYSTAL, which was only formed in 1987, but we are talking Dartington Glass." So it that sense it's not an entirely satisfactory letter as we don't know if the archives go back any further. It's still NOT a Frank thrower design and is one of those ebay myths. The only things even vaguely like are the Hollywood and Etoile ranges