Topic: Dartington, Frank Thrower?? Or Ravenhead Flair Lotus, or Lasisepat?

[Anne]

I think I was confused by it all as well and have probably added even more confusion now! Sorry folks! 

[flying free]

Rosie, just wondering if your bowls turned up and whether or not they were the same?
I have bought two more of the short ones in the meantime.  They look practically identical to my two other short ones, but I think the circumference of the base may be the odd millimetre wider and the prongs the odd millimetre shorter on one of them.  That said, I would guess they came out of different molds and that difference would be acceptable.  Other than that they look identical.  So either mine are all Lasisepat or they are all Ravenhead.
m

[rosieposie]

Hi m  :hi: Yes, they are all here now, and I feel badly that I haven't shown them yet, but I PROMISE I will after this week end!

Now, in the meantime, a seller on eBay listed this bowl as Italian.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290403543349

Leni, It looks the same as the one you pictured further back in this thread.

So firstly, have you still got it? 
Secondly, has it got ITALY on the base. 
Thirdly, is the pattern on the inside of the bowl or the outside surface? 
Fourthly, is the pattern INdented or is it proud of the surface?
All important questions, because I am wondering if Lasisepat Glassworks sold the moulds to an Italian firm after they closed down, or, is this a naughty 'copy'?

[px]

Funny enough, I just bumped into two of these grass patterned on a flea market both in transparent boxes with text "Made in Denmark" and nothing else ( -> more confusion !?) 
First I was thinking if the boxes were not original, on the other hand - there were two.
Secondly - I have this theory from a long time now. It seems Pertti Kallioinen has worked very much as a free lancer for so very many factories (Riihimäen Lasi, Muurla, Merilasi, LasiSepät...)  that what if he only sold his designs so they still remain as his to be sold around? And that he has been very active in doing so?

[rosieposie]

Did you buy them px?  If so, can you answer any of the questions I posted.......it would be a great help.

[px]

Sorry rosie, did not buy them and now I cannot even remember where it was I saw them to go and re-check. Poor me. 

[rosieposie]

This thread started as a plea for positive identification of the Lasisepat Cactus Vase made in Mantsala........

Now I just want to swear and tear my hair out!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220851683439

Aaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!!!!! :help: :hb2:

[px]

Great, rosie! 

I can add: I found and took pictures of the grass patterned pieces, those I told about before, in addition to "Made in Denmark" there's a logo that looks like two peacocks facing each other although their tail is more like a squirrels in my eye.. Maybe someone recognizes the factory?
Oh, and there's a candle done directly in the cup, with the candlewick in the side.


And then, one with Humppila label.

So now in this thread proof of Denmark, Finland and Italy. 

[rosieposie]

Well found px!!   :rah:  .......is the logo that's on the package also on the glass?

I've lost track of the number of different styles of glass in this thread....... :cry:

I think I will just stick to hot worked and mouth blown art glass in future.......it seems pressed glass can be made by anyone, anywhere.......please can we have a smiley for 'tearing your hair out'!!  :cry:

[flying free]

Hey that's brilliant both  :sun:
So, I am pretty sure there was a cast iron id of the cactus vase to Lasisepat Mantsala on another thread.  Here we now have the cactus vase in an original Ravenhead box with picture on.  px your theory is gaining ground.
The little bowl you show px, two things strike me, firstly it doesn't seem quite the same as the one discussed (I have a few of these now somewhere so will go check and dig them out), secondly though, I do remember Robbo?? I think had one and his had candle wax in it I'm sure...maybe the 'original' candlewax then 
I shall have a check on my bowls again tomorrow and a search through for ids on other threads again to link them.
m