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Offline pokermon6

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Paul ysart paperweights
« on: December 27, 2008, 02:02:24 PM »
I have purchased 2 paperweights i am almost sure they are paul ysarts but not 100% please help. the one on the left is signed caithness 1962
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Gary

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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2008, 06:49:23 PM »
Yes, both appear to be Paul Ysart weights.

I would like to see separate, larger images of each weight just to see the cane details better (it's a fascination I have).  Also, could you please show a photo of the base of each - at a slight angle as the features may help to confirm the dating.

And one more request, please ... an image showing the "caithness 1962" on the left-hand weight would be useful. Most reference works on Paul Ysart state that he joined Caithness Glass at Wick during 1963.
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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2008, 07:03:37 PM »
few more pics i will sort a picture out for the bottom of the left one. i have found out he was at Caithness training in 1962 also found quite alot of the canes in the weights. both have quite large what i would call polished pontil.

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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2008, 07:04:39 PM »
sorry other pics didnt work

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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2008, 07:05:30 PM »
another picture

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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2008, 07:15:30 PM »
picture of the bottom of the left one

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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 12:41:33 PM »
These 2 weights could be for sale anyone any idea of price ? I have a rough idea but will listen to what people think
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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 04:50:22 PM »
i have found out he was at Caithness training in 1962

As the 1963 date came from Paul Ysart himself it would be very hard to change that without documentary evidence. A date on a weight does not do it. You mention having found out, what did you find out and where please?

There could be any number of reasons for a 1962 date on the weight and it would not be the first time a first hand date information was proven incorrect.

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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2008, 06:47:59 PM »
Hi Frank just searching where i read about him doing training at Caithness in 1962 will let you know later when i find it out. I am sure the canes are right for ysart. what do you think Frank you seem a very knowledgeable person. What would you think about the 1962 on the bottom yet it says he wasnt there until 1963 ? will let you know later about what i found
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Re: Paul ysart paperweights
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2008, 08:00:59 PM »
www.scottishbordersartglass.com/neweb/peter.htm

Peter Holmes:  was born on the 3rd December 1947 in Bourton-on-the-water Gloucester England. He moved to Scotland in 1958 so his schooling was in both countries. Whilst at school in 1962 he helped the village blacksmith where he lived as a Saturday job. The blacksmith used to repair and sharpen the tools of a well-known glassmaker called Paul Ysart. It was Paul who persuaded him to take up an apprentice in glassmaking at Caithness Glass in Wick, where he was the training officer.

On January 21st 1963 he started his apprenticeship. 

it was Paul who persuaded him to take up an aprenticeship which he started 21st jan 1963 which must mean Paul was there before that date which would be late 1962 ?

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