Topic: Cased Glass Rose Bowl Id Help Needed

[Bernard C]

It is, perhaps, worth noting that even acknowledged authorities can have considerable difficulty in distinguishing between cased, flashed, or lined layers of colour and those produced as internal or external surface colour changes in temperature- or heat-sensitive glass.   I've found that it is best to keep an open mind when you find these technical terms used — at least until you are confident of their veracity.

Bernard C.  

[TxSilver]

I agree with Bernard. I was looking through a book on collectible rose bowls and saw one that looked like peachblow. The surface had been painted to look that way. Looking at the picture, it was impossible to tell. Your glass glows under black light and is white inside. I don't know if true peachblow is UV reactive. Maybe peachblow-like would be a good description until you know something more concrete.

[Lustrousstone]

Same time frame but I don't think we can categorically say same decorator Bernard, similar decor maybe. Several decorators/refiners (as in individuals) are much more likely to have worked for the same manufacturing or refining company to the same designs.

This one is different in that it glows under UV light. Does it glow on the inside, or is it just the outer layer?

[cxgirl]

Thanks for the links to those other pieces. The designs sure are similar, and the pontil on the one looks the same as mine.
Bernard, I'm at work so I will send the photos when I get home from my computer. I took some additional photos that show a truer colour of my piece and will put those up.
I will put it under the blacklight tonight as I can't remember if it glowed inside and out.
mary

[obscurities]

Your glass glows under black light and is white inside. I don't know if true peachblow is UV reactive.

I have this piece of New England Peachblow and it does not react to black light at all.  

I have done some additional reading and IMHO this is most likely what would be categorized as a piece of pink satin glass, as pink satin is most commonly lined. Burmese was also a glass that generally was not lined, and faded from pink or salmon at the top to a yellowish tint at the base..... Unlike the variations in Peachblow coloration that occurred from manufacturer to manufacturer, Burmese is generally the same coloration regardless of the manufacturer.

[azelismia]

this piece isn't peachblow, it's cased pink/orange glass. the only actual Peachblow as it's defined from Europe was Webb and this is not Webb. here is an example of Webb peachblow from my collection, the white glass is heavily salted with Uranium and it has a very deep raspberry pink.

http://s248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/mar%2009/?action=view&current=P1040626.jpg

 Harrach did have a peachblow type although not actually peachblow, it was just pink cased glass, but it doesn't look anything like this either.

here is a version of the Harrach from my collection

http://s248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/feb20th/?action=view&current=P1040421.jpg


it's got a very different look to the glass. the thorny handles looks very English to me. I'd be very very surprised to find out these were from Harrach ( I have a pretty Large Harrach collection) They did put out a lot of different types of glass, it's not impossible, but I don't think Occam's razor points there. They look like stourbridge type stuff to me.  

[krsilber]

Revi talks about several types of peachblow in Nineteenth Century Glass, and apparently none of them use uranium.  The heat sensitivity comes from gold, just as amberina's does.  It's possible you get a uranium glow from the opaque white.  I agree with others that this looks like shaded piece rather than peachblow.

[Bernard C]

Same time frame but I don't think we can categorically say same decorator Bernard, similar decor maybe. Several decorators/refiners (as in individuals) are much more likely to have worked for the same manufacturing or refining company to the same designs.   ...

Christine, please don't include me in on this opinion, to which you are quite entitled.   My view, that all three examples were by the same glass house and decorated not just by the same decorating workshop but by the same individual artist, was based on a long list of similarities, and on the exclusiveness of this particular eclectic style of decoration.   These artists were paid piecework rates, so worked at speed.   The four pieces that have emerged indicate to me a production rate very comfortably within the capacity of just the one skilled decorator.   I can just see him (or, more likely, her) coming to the end of decorating this bowl, one of perhaps a dozen or more that she was working on at the same time, checking to make sure it was to her satisfaction, being rather pleased with her three swallows, considering where to put her signature, and then, with the tip of her tongue just protruding from the corner of her mouth in concentration, applying her red beads with a final flourish.   Q.E.D.

Bernard C.  

[azelismia]

FWIW, I agree with Christine, They don't look so alike that I'd assume these came from the same hand. they look very Typcial of the period.  a lot of companies put out this sort of decor. beading was not uncommon. I've seen examples from America, England and Bohemia with similar decoration. being the ebay fiend that I am, I can say with assurance that this decor is not unique or uncommon in the least. I see this kind of thing all the time.

[cxgirl]

Here are some other photos showing the colours a bit better. It does glow green on the inside, but I'm confused by the green glow on the bottom half - would that be from the inside glass?
mary
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11821