Topic: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?

[keith]

Many, many thanks to every one,it seems I have my first piece of Walsh after all,most chuffed,Keith.

[obscurities]

Thanks Bernard...... That explanation helps....

Craig

[Bernard C]

Keith & Craig — Thanks for inspiring me to look this up.   A closer look at Book 9 shows that the Northwood mould found its way to Fenton, who did a short run of reproductions around 1978–85, so the mould may still be in their store.

Here is an example of a similarly sized Northwood Opaline Brocade item to yours, Keith, illustrating the major differences — note:

the vertical completeness of the pattern, probably impossible with Walsh Opaline Brocade of this size,

the pattern stopping abruptly at the edge of the base, rather than continuing down to the pontil mark, and

the rim crimp — Walsh's hand crimp would have been slightly finer and slightly lop-sided.

Also here is a larger example of the Northwood production, showing that the pattern was being stretched beyond its best.

Bernard C. 

[obscurities]

Bernard,

Thanks for posting the additional info and links... the differences you are describing are quite pronounced when seen in examples like that.....

Thanks again,  Craig

[Lustrousstone]

Here is a "brocade-like" pattern that is neither I don't think

[Bernard C]

Christine — Yes, there is another on eBay at the moment in much the same colour which is nearly but not quite Brocade.   Inspired by Walsh and Northwood, perhaps?

And you've hit on a puzzle.   Was the pattern called Opaline Brocade or just Brocade?   Bill Heacock queried this 22 years ago, and I don't think we're any the wiser now.

Bernard C. 

[keith]

That also  goes for me,thanks Bernard,Keith.

[Lustrousstone]

Excuse the strange double negative; I was in a rush.

Keith's isn't truly opaline though (at least it doesn't appear so), as the pattern isn't highlighted by reheating, just by the iridescence. I would say perhaps there was Brocade and Opaline brocade.

[Bernard C]

Christine — precisely.   But we are not talking logic here, but what Lewis John Murray and Harry Northwood actually called the pattern, quite different.

Bernard C.