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As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« on: August 26, 2009, 05:45:26 PM »
As on a previous post said will pop this on so here it is id please?
11cm diameter with clear outer casing.  Looks underneath to be on another level if that makes sense.  Pincushion bubble arc in dark green but almost lime when held up to light.  there is initials on the bottom but unfortunately cant figure it out i think it is an initial followed by w but not 100% certain.
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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 07:50:12 PM »
The bubbles (bullicante, if Murano) look to be very well done. They're small and very regular. A few Murano companies did pieces like this, as did some Scandinavian and North American (Erickson comes to mind). I'd guess Murano, but I would be very reluctant to suggest a particular maker.

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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 08:33:07 PM »
The tightness of the controlled bubble pattern leads me to think Scandinavian as opposed to Murano or North American. Initials, if they are there, would also tend to have me lean in that direction.....

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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2009, 08:40:59 PM »
Craig is right. I had intended to say that a signature on the bottom would make me doubt that it was Murano.  But, offhand, I can't think of a Scandi company that would do bubbles like this. I was going to ask if you were sure that the "letters" were not just scratches, as it's impossible to see anything in the photo.

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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 09:04:36 PM »
I think more specifically to artists than companies when I see this style of bubble work. Although the glass style is different (form and colors) Gunnel Nymun for Nuutajarvi and also Nuutäjarvi-Notsjö did work with this style of very fine controlled bubble patterns. There are a handful of others also, their names just don't come to mind at the moment. I want to say mostly Finnish if my memory serves me correctly......

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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 11:12:17 PM »
Craig: agreed again, but take out the bubbles and you have fairly typical Murano piece, rather than a Gunnel Nyman piece. Yes, she did (designed) fine bubble work, but not this style of bowl. I think I'd stick with Murano, as we know they did bowls like this and bubbles like this, but I'd be interested to see to a better picture of the bottom and the lettering.

I'm interested to hear what others think.

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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 11:30:13 PM »
David,

I am not implying that I think it is a Nymun piece at all, I was only using that as an example of a non Murano artist that used that style of controlled bubble work, and as an example of not associating it with a specific company, and more with individual artists.

I personally associate this type of tight bubble pattern with Scandinavian work, and not Italian. My general experience is that the Italian controlled bubble patterns are typically quite a bit more relaxed in appearance, and the bubbles are generally larger in size....

I am also interested in what others think, but I must say that the use of the green in that manner also reminds me much more of Scandinavian work than of Italian.

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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 01:59:52 AM »
Craig:

I have some small pieces by Seguso which have this type of very controlled small bubbles. I didn't want to use the "S" word as it sometimes raises expectations.

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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 05:26:04 AM »
Morning I will try and catch the lettering under the light if I can, it most definately is lettering not just scratches on the base.  If it helps the lettering is blocked and about 1cm thick.  Will try and do it today.  Thanks
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Re: As discussed earlier bubble ashtray id please
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2009, 06:05:17 AM »
Here is the lettering on the base I am now thinking it says EIN it shows better in pic than actually in real.
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