Topic: Grey bird Murano? hopefully

[chriscooper]

Had this a while the technique reminds of a piece in Anita's Murano zoo scroll down to the grey Formia cat or  V. Nason maybe? stands 5.5" high quite heavy.

http://sites.google.com/site/muranozoo/mammals-3

Here are some photos probably wishful thinking but it is similar :pb: could even be Swedish?

http://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/108#

Chris :sun:

[rosieposie]

Hi Chris,  I would put my money on Faro Marcolin.....I have quite a few pieces of this type of glass,  most have the engraved base saying FM Sweden and some numbers according to the model number. 

I have got some that just have the rounded triangular label though, so I wonder if yours is one of these with the label removed? 
I believe that some of these were made in Sardinia as well by the Marcolin brothers,  but I am sure Anita will come in here and put us all right.
For the record, I have 2 cats, 3 ellies, a couple of birds and a couple of swans and a duck!! All the same technique.

[TxSilver]

Ingela is the Ronneby expert, so maybe she will be able to verify. I would say FM Ronneby.

[ahremck]

I agree with Rosieposie - Marcolin.

A photo of my small duck - note similar bubbles and colour.

Ross

[ahremck]

Whoops missed the base photo.

Ross

[chriscooper]

Thanks for the help so far, wonder if the title could be amended to include FM Ronneby or Marcolin to attract Ingela's attention?  :kissy:
Thanks for the photos Ross.
Chris :sun:

[inca]

Hi Chris,

A nice bird!
I haven’t seen this model before but I’m looking at the details.
The edge of the base/bottom, the beak (bill), the wings, the tail.
It does not strike me as FM so I think this is Murano, probably V. Nason.

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Ross, you agree with Rosie.
Does that mean you do not agree with Anita?
You are talking about the same glassworks! It’s never FM Ronneby or Marcolin!

It’s a bit confusing for me to sometimes know what you are referring to:
"This is FM, or FM Konstglas, or Ronneby, or Marcolin, or Faro Marcolin, or FM Ronneby,
and sometimes Marcolin indicates Sardinia Crystal and not Ronneby, Sweden."
 
FM stands for Färe Marcolin, F does not stand for Fare or Faro.
Josef Marcolin was married to Inga-Lill Färe. Father-in-law was Bror Färe.

Josef and Benito Marcolin had their own glassworks in Ronneby, Sweden, 1961-1991.
The name of the company was FM Konstglas.
In 1983 they changed the trade name to Marcolin Art Crystal (with the FM logo),
the company name was still FM Konstglas.
In approx. 1988-1989 they changed the company name to Marcolin Art Crystal,
with trade name Marcolin Art Crystal (now without the FM logo).

If you are referring to Sardinia Crystal, please use Marcolin Sardinia Crystal, to avoid confusion.

Rosie, a question for you. You mention:
"most have the engraved base saying FM Sweden......“
Does it just say FM Sweden? That’s a bit unusual! Can you please check, thanks!

[TxSilver]

To add a little more uncertainty -- I ran across a "gray-effect" dolphin that was made in China. The pattern of the grid is different -- elongate diamond for the dolphin, but with similar small bubbles. The picture is not mine, so I can't post it. It does raise this possibility that the bird is neither Swedish nor Muranese. I've searched my files, but can't find a bird of this design.

[inca]

To add a little more uncertainty -- I ran across a "gray-effect" dolphin that was made in China. The pattern of the grid is different -- elongate diamond for the dolphin, but with similar small bubbles. The picture is not mine, so I can't post it. It does raise this possibility that the bird is neither Swedish nor Muranese. I've searched my files, but can't find a bird of this design.

no, I don't think it's from China. The bird looks like good quality, so I would rule out China.

[rosieposie]

Hello one and all!!
Well thank goodness Ingela has come in on this one....but isn't it complicated!!?

The cats I have are engraved on the base.  They are both the same tall design,  one says:

Acc (?) Difficult to read)
Style 8800
FM Konstglas
Sweden

The other:
FM
Ronneby
Sweden.
Also has a silver label.

The Elephants are the Dumbo style, again both the same.
FM
Ronneby
Sweden
M588 200
With Silver Label.

The other
Same as first, no label.

A smaller ellie in a 'begging' position with no markings or labels.

Then I have a fan tailed bird and a duck looking back over its shoulder with no markings or labels.
Neither of the swans are labelled,  but I posted a picture of the turquoise swan in an earlier thread.
I also have a bird in a blue version of this technique, no markings or labels.

I am happy to post pictures of all these but feel to some extent I am hijacking your thread again Chris,  and I don't like doing that unless it realy helps to identify your Bird.