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Offline Cathy B

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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2011, 01:12:32 AM »
:huh:

A vase, Kev?  Complete with a swizzle stick and a great big spouty folded-over spout?

An awkward, badly designed jug ;)

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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2011, 04:51:27 AM »
Thanks very much for the info.

I don't know the official definition of celery vase but they do have a shape to hold celery in water to keep it crisp and because it is for food it wasn't taxed as a flower vase would be so there was a motivation to call it a "celery vase".
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2011, 06:40:01 AM »
Celery vases tend to be of a good width and have long straight vertical sides (and a foot for ease of passing round); at least the Victorian ones. The later ones that were avoiding tax are often much less practical for actually putting celery in and much better for flowers.

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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2011, 02:37:37 PM »
quote from Christine..............."Celery vases tend to be of a good width and have long straight vertical sides (and a foot for ease of passing round)"...........quite true, of course, and certainly C19 examples do seem to have a stem and circular foot more often than not.       And, if they are engraved with grape and vine.........then apparently they are for washing your grapes in.    Presumably not made specifically for grapes  -  just that someone had taken a celery and, with a little imagination, changed its use.
Oddly, some of the ale/beer glasses from the latter part of C19  -  those decorated with cut printies, a round foot and straight paralell sides, are almost like under-sized celerys.
Can't help thinking though that if you had a tall celery on the tea table (and some stood at over a foot), then a quick movement with the hand to grab the jam pot or butter dish, might well have sent the celerly over.             Personally, I'd have kept the celery in the fridge and dispensed with the vase and water.
For a more historic definition of the expression 'Pony Glass'  -  the following is from Wikipedia..................... "pony is a glass of only 140 ml capacity sometimes known as a small beer. The name comes from the old horse race carnivals, where patrons would go to the bar for a quick drink between races. Because only a short amount of time was available between races many patrons would prefer to drink beer from the small 140 ml glass so they would be done in time to get back to the next race. While a pony is a small horse, not commonly used in racing, the name stuck nonetheless".
If swizzle sticks are for mixing the cocktail  -  then I've foregotten the name of the short 'glass' stick used for crushing the sugar in a hot toddy  -  and it is.............??

   

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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2011, 02:45:08 PM »
..........believe it or not...........A Glass Sugar Crusher!! Or, a Muddler, or, a Tamper!!!

It's true!! :)
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2011, 02:55:59 PM »
Mr Newman seemed not to have heard of "Muddler" or "Tamper", in connection with glass items, but he did say that sugar crushers were also known as "toddy-sticks". :)
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2011, 03:02:59 PM »
I have a few of these Glass Muddlers that I use to stir the essential oils and creams I make.  They wash easily and the flat ended ones make good scoops to ladle out the goo!! How's that for a thread  :hj:
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2011, 06:15:49 PM »
thanks Rosie  -  and it may well have been 'tamper' that I had in mind  -  although as a one time pipe smoker (centuries ago) believe that was what we called the metal thingy with which the baccy was pushed down.       I suspect that Kevin's 'toddy sticks' sounds more appropriate. :)   The few I have are rather crude in manufacture, so guess they were made without much thought to quality.     My apologies also for side tracking the thread  -  just that I happen to rather like Celerys, and hot toddy glasses. :)

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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2011, 08:15:18 PM »
I've got a glass pipe tobacco 'tamp' as well.....makes a great stirrer, I got these all at the big A3 boot fair a few years ago before I discovered eBay.  :usd:
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Re: what makes something a beaker or a tumbler or just a glass?
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2011, 09:39:39 PM »
Rosie - so you were an A3 booter as well were you :)    Ebay is great for building a collection quickly - but there's no excitement.      Wouldn't you rather get up at 5 a.m. - in the cold and dark - jossle with other like minded souls, and experience not knowing exactly what might turn up?  -  No, I guess not.    I've been most weeks during the season, but quality finds are diminishing, I must admit.    Sorry, off track again. :-[

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