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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2011, 01:28:27 PM »
I would say Chinese myself. the glass appears thick and clumsy, with an irregularity to the shape of the neck. To me this indicates fast, high volume production which would lean me to Chinese glass. In most of the pictures the mouth and neck do not appear really symmetrical.....  A fairly Chinese trait IMHO.

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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2011, 05:43:16 PM »
Gold leaf is applied to the surface of a formed item; sometimes it's a fully formed item and sometimes it's cased/covered in more glass. The heat causes the gold leaf to fragment.

Copper is not applied as pure metal. It's mixed with molten glass, which is then cooled and broken into chips or powder (aventurine), which is then applied to the hot glass item.

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A fairly Chinese trait IMHO.

Or a studio trait. I know this is not Chinese, but it has the characteristics you describe
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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2011, 10:49:53 PM »
Gold leaf ... The heat causes the gold leaf to fragment.

It is the blowing that fragments the gold leaf.

This piece could be from anywhere and factory more likely than studio as base has had a lot of grinding and polishing. So not cheap production, add American mid-range department store stuff to the list. Technique is old but used increasingly from 1920s on.

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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2011, 12:25:33 AM »
I too have No idea.

I can see what you mean when you say it kinda has that Czech look to it -- the colors, and the way they are done.  The foil, well I do not know enough about that.  It *does appear to be well made, and has some really good weight to it.  As you can see, there is wear to it.

The top opening is not wavy, I just took the pic crooked.

Hmmmmm....this might be a long one to figure out    

Just have to keep a look out as we travel the Net for something kinda the same, or a lead in some direction...
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2011, 03:26:38 AM »
Still wondering about  this and thinking maybe *older* (1960's) Japanese (rather than Chinese) as a Possibly?? 

The reason why I am saying and thinking this is because this item * HERE reminds me of it.    That one in the link is an Older Japanese one with a KAWA Import label, that says it is from the 1960's.  So just tossing this out there ?????

Could that be the identify of my red vase here too? ??       

You read my mind, Rose. The first thing that went through my mind was maybe it was Japanese... or that it was Chinese made to look like Japanese. The wear on bottom makes me favor Japanese, perhaps from Lefton or Kamei. I looked around and found some similar shapes, but nothing exact. I would add Japanese as a strong contender for the attribution.
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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2011, 03:38:21 AM »
You read my mind, Rose. The first thing that went through my mind was maybe it was Japanese... or that it was Chinese made to look like Japanese. The wear on bottom makes me favor Japanese, perhaps from Lefton or Kamei. I looked around and found some similar shapes, but nothing exact. I would add Japanese as a strong contender for the attribution.

Thanks TxSilver  :kissy:

Been looking around the Net, and I wonder IF this could have some direct relationship to this one.  Take a Peek at it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-10-5-Japanese-Osaka-Art-Glass-Vase-Aventurine-/370490901884

Says vintage 1970's (and then also says 1950's ?? in the write-up) from the area of Osaka of Japan, and made in the similar style of Murano. 

So might we be getting any closer ??  :huh2:  I thinking I am kinda feeling we may be --- and that it is still old, and well made.   :X:

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2011, 03:46:25 AM »
I think you are in the right ballpark, Rose, though I don't know for sure. I think that Kamei is also in Osaka. So you may be in the right ballpark and even near the right base -- Osaka. Still just a guess, but I think a good one.
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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2011, 03:56:42 AM »
I think you are in the right ballpark, Rose, though I don't know for sure. I think that Kamei is also in Osaka. So you may be in the right ballpark and even near the right base -- Osaka. Still just a guess, but I think a good one.

Thanks -- as I am kinda feeling that way too. 

Just not sure *which* base I am on right now......    Been driving me  :ho:
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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2011, 01:27:23 PM »
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It is the blowing that fragments the gold leaf.
Not in or on paperweights, blowing will cause it to fragment more though.
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Re: Chinese -- Right ????
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2013, 07:58:50 AM »
2013 Reply to old Thread......

Since just talking about Kamei Glass on another post, when you look at Wayne's pin Board   *CLICK HERE and there is a Glass Vase in a Boxed set ((( courtesy of "pedscor2816"))) -- that looks the same shape as my RED vase posted here. 

So I am now leaning even more to my Vase being KAMEI here, also.  So may have an ID for this some years later from date posted!

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