Topic: GTS Mystery Set 47 with variant tray pattern

[Jayne]

Any ideas for this lovely deep amber part trinket set please? The tray measures 28cm x 19cm.

[Anne]

Dirk has some pieces in green and I have some in blue... the pots are the same as yours I think, but the tray has a different base pattern but the edges look the same... see what you think: http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=203:mystery-set-47&catid=28:mysteries&Itemid=52 I think it's Czech (we've seen a piece marked Czechoslovakia) but no maker id'd as yet... still working on it!

[Jayne]

Ohh yes it has many similarities, my pot is tiny, 7cm across such a cute thing lol, I'll post another pic, and thanks Anne, the plot thickens.

Actually I just went to measure the pot and noticed it has a little gap for spoon or something? Like a jam/honey/mustard pot.

[Jayne]

Oooh Anne look what I just found,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ART-DECO-GLASS-DRESSING-TABLE-SET-/160650448511?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item2567834e7f

Same tray as mine, same pots and candlesticks as yours with measurements of large and small pots.

My pot is much smaller than both in the listing, hmmm maybe the "mustard pot" could lead us to our destination. 

[Anne]

Ooohh what a fab colour that is! And one not often seen... I have one piece that colour (different pattern, same colour, unknown maker) and have seen a set by Davidson in that colour too...  and yes, I think we need to search the catalogues again for your preserve/mustard pot and see what we can find. Well found!

[agincourt17]

Photos of two part trinket sets, both having candlesticks as shown in Anne’s GTS Mystery Set 47 at
http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=203:mystery-set-47&catid=28:mysteries&Itemid=52

Anne’s photos show rectangular trays with ‘toothed’ edges to the slightly flared sides, and bases with a ‘garter star’ centre within a clear border.

My photos show trays with the same basic shape, but with the bases decorated with starburst centres having rays extending right to the edges of the base.

Presumably a simple variant, but does it help with the attribution of the sets?


(Permission for the re-use of the image of the amber set by GMB granted by nessie53,
and of the green set by barryjaz2012)

[Jayne]

Ooohh what a fab colour that is! And one not often seen... I have one piece that colour (different pattern, same colour, unknown maker) and have seen a set by Davidson in that colour too...  and yes, I think we need to search the catalogues again for your preserve/mustard pot and see what we can find. Well found!

The mustard pot has been found!

Some time ago, I saw trio cruet sets of salt pepper and mustard pot in green and blue glass on a matching tray with bakelite lids to the salt and pepper, the same as my mustard but no catalogue image found, although Czech suspected.

Now here they are along with my Amber one (Topaz) in the Jewelray section of the c.1950's Clayton Mayers catalogue, right at the bottom page 97-107.

http://www.victorianpressedglass.com/pdf/clayton_mayers.pdf

It's worth noting the Jewelray Mustard and Butter Dish (Honey) which I happen to have one of also, have no star pattern in the base, the same as the trinket pots in the set that was Mystery 47.

I believe the "Variant" trays above with an all over star base come with pots with all over star bases.

The topic on the Butter "Honey Dish" or "Amber dish with attached saucer" pretty much identified as Stolzle Hermanova is here:

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,48082.0.html

In summary, it seems the only piece the same in the all over star base tray Trinket Set and Jewelray Trinket Set is possibly the ring holder and the size of the tray/pots.

Also Hermanova seems to be likely as the maker.

GTS Link to Jewelray Trinket Set images and photos:

https://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms3/unknowns/jewelray