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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2011, 05:20:29 AM »
Anita truth be known the link was forwarded to me by another party & left it to my judgement whether or not to post it so I'm not the sleuth, however it does seem to demonstrate the KB Murano imports are being touted as the work of other well known companies, in this case American art glass so in that regard it might have value. Ken

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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2011, 08:35:31 PM »
Current web data -
Koscherak Brothers Inc -    Giftwares (Wholesale)
448 W 16th St, New York, New York 10011
(212) 627-2050

Hi Frank,
I called today and found out that number is a Fax number :(
Found this other # for them (212) 391-2272, but it says it is disconnected.

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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2011, 08:46:44 PM »
Anita truth be known the link was forwarded to me by another party & left it to my judgement whether or not to post it so I'm not the sleuth, however it does seem to demonstrate the KB Murano imports are being touted as the work of other well known companies, in this case American art glass so in that regard it might have value. Ken

Hi Ken,
The photo shown on the site does look like my Ewer.
However, I was not sold the piece or the paperweight as Tiffany pieces.
Still we have the question of what company or maker did in fact make this items for KB.
I personally do not think they are Italian, but American.
And what company sold the Tiffany Favrile signed paperweights with the same decoration as mine that I provided the links for?

 
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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2011, 10:22:25 PM »
This one is bizarre, has anyone got an image of the mark on the weight?

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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2011, 10:55:47 PM »
Hi Frank,
Are you guys able to see the LiveAuctioneer link with the photos?
The last photo of the paperweights shows the mark.
Looks like a very ornate and I would think very hard to reproduce embossed mark.

The other 2 links, only have the paperweight image, not the close up of the marks.
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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2011, 11:22:01 PM »
SVAZZO having been involved with U.S. glass for 38 years I've not run across anything like your ewer attributed to any U.S. manufacturer. I will add one disclaimer though & that involves a possible private order with a small studio firm which would be next to impossible to confirm or deny for that matter. I even rule out the larger well known hand shops such as Fenton, Blenko & Pilgrim & if Dr. Measell pops in he can either confirm or correct me. It would have to have been one of the hundreds (most long gone these days) of private mom & pop studio operations that operated largely in the early 70's until the late 90's when most disappeared. Personally it screams Murano to me, but thats only my opinion. On the paperweights I honestly do not know except to say that on page 2 of the Tiffany Fakes website 1/2 way down the page, right hand size under the name "OAS3" appears a paperweight not unlike the one shown & in the opinion of the website Tiffany did not make paperweights like these and they come from a reproduction house. Whether or not this is correct I don't know, but this is the trusted website for Tiffany fakes.  Ken

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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2011, 11:40:24 PM »
Hi Ken,
Has the signature that is shown on the LiveAuctioneers website been documented as a Tiffany Favrile stamp?
No one has mentioned anything yet about that signature/stamp.

"Personally it screams Murano to me, but thats only my opinion"
As someone who has collected Murano items for years, they do not say Murano to me.
That is the enigma for me.

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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2011, 11:42:24 PM »
Ken, I agree with you. I don't mean to be repetitive, but talented glassmakers can imitate the work of another. My personal feeling is that it was made in the late 1960s in Murano for KB, very likely by Fratelli Toso. The reason I say the latter is because of the ewer of this shape in the KB catalog that is shown with other pieces of glass that I know are FT. FT had many talented glassmakers, so it would be my first guess based on what we know about the ewer.
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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2011, 11:55:10 PM »
Hi Anita,
I have to disagree again with the Fratelli Toso reference.
As you have said yourself, many makers can reproduce this items and KB imported many Italian makers (if we go by it being Italian in the first place).
The "ewer" shape, and the "paperweight" shapes are almost universal.
You have to look at the actual design of the piece. "Design" as in the texture, glass techniques used, the feel of it, etc.
Murano makers did not do much Aurene/Mirrored/Iridescent glass.
The Iridescent pieces I have handled by Fratelli Toso, Seguso, Barovier and more, do not have the same feel or look as this 2 pieces have.
That is why I am questioning them as Italian items.

I would like to know at least the answer to my last question.
Does the Signature on the LiveAuctioneer link been documented as a "Tiffany Favrile" stamp?
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Re: Tiffany Favrile Ewer?
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2011, 12:06:47 AM »
On the paperweights I honestly do not know except to say that on page 2 of the Tiffany Fakes website 1/2 way down the page, right hand size under the name "OAS3" appears a paperweight not unlike the one shown & in the opinion of the website Tiffany did not make paperweights like these and they come from a reproduction house.
Yes, a similar paperweight to mine is on there, bit does not show the signature it was supposed to have.

The other paperweights I saw on the site have hand scribed "drilled" signatures.
Anyone can write that name in, but not many people would be able to create a Logo, and emboss a signature like that to the bottom of paperweight.

Can you just tell me that yes you have seen the signature on the site?
I have not heard from any of you that you have actually seen that signature or have knowledge that the Tiffany Favrile stamp shown is real or fake.

None of your comments address that there is a signature on that 1 paperweight.
I am not being rude, just really want to know why that has not been addressed at all?
"Tiffany Favrile Glass Registered Trademark"

Is that a real signature?

Frank - Please delete the photo if needed, but seems I needed to post it.
It seems very complex for anyone to just decided to put it on a paperweight.
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