Topic: Unknown large Blackbird ....who IS he ?

[NMott]

I have a Ronneby one with the same internal pattern, but it's fully marked. I believe the Chinese made copies, and as this isn't marked it's probably one of the copies.

[flying free]

yes - Rosie said here for example
'Some of you may remember I had a blue bird  with this quilted effect inside, and I thought it might be Marcolin,  but now I am not certain......the base was quite well polished, but not as well as my signed Marcolin and FM Konstglas pieces. 
I have sold it now, but these are pictures I have of it, and I  have seen others listed on eBay, very similar, that were sold as Cello.
I hope this helps a little.'
her duck is here - the effect is very similar if not the same
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,43525.msg243085.html#msg243085

I have seen a largish number of pieces with this feather effect but in grey not black.  Perhaps black was a later offering.  Or perhaps I am wrong and it's not Cello
m

[flying free]

http://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t8931-glass-bird-with-two-labels
this is another similar one although the base on this one definitely hasn't been polished.
m

[ahremck]

The photo that made me think it is a Nason piece is https://fossilfly.cybrhost.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=2042 which shows the beak structure to be very similar to your bird.  Nason labels are very likely to be lost over time.

Ross

[rosieposie]

The feather and bubble technique is called Sfumato.... I don't think this is a Cello piece, the quality looks too good.  I know that many of the FM Konstglas pieces have a rounded triangular label and no engraving to the base,  but I tend to agree with Ross here,  that this is a V.Nason  piece.  The eye and beak show a craftsmanship that I have yet to see on Chinese birds and TK Maxx pieces, and the striped bird is definitely not the quality of yours Sue,  so for the moment,  until you see another,  it is either Murano (V.Nason),  or Swedish, (FM Konstglas).
I would have bought it.... it looks a lovely piece.  If I see another,  I will mention it here so you have a comparison.

[flying free]

Rosie that's good to have that confirmed
OP is it possible to please have a clear good picture of the polished base?
thanks
Here is are some good close up pics of a labelled v nason bird although not a blackbird.
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_264&products_id=5268&zenid=8ebf46d9871fde814d2bd90270b12dae

and there are other V Nason pieces here, they all tend to have clear casing though so not quite the same as yours
but still helpful to see and  to compare the technique
http://www.fossilfly.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=1498

m

[Artifarti]

Thank you , yet again everybody... my poor bird, he's gone from TK max, back to Italy, via Sweden... his wings must be tired :-))))
This may help.... I've taken photos of his bottom again, this time in daylight.... I'm hoping that this will help, but either way , Im learning lots, :-))  and loving it ....
thanks to all
Sue

[flying free]

thanks for the extra pics - they really need to be 600x400 to blow up to be able to be viewed properly though.
That still doesn't look like a highly polished shiny completely see through base to me - sorry.
 It may just be the way I'm viewing it but whilst it doesn't look matt as in the one I linked to,  it looks  as though it has had a quick polish but not completely.
Perhaps I'm wrong or perhaps V Nason didn't polish the base of their pieces completely maybe?
I'd also love to see a large close up of the sfumato technique on his feathers if you have time
m

[Artifarti]

Okidoki.... does this help.... :-) Unfortunately I use a really high definition camera (I'm an artist, and I use my camera for work, so I need hideously large files and telephoto lens's) so its extremely difficult to get file sizes down, and keep perspective ... the smallest I can get them down to is 500.... or the files are too big to upload :-(

This is the largest I can get the images , with this camera... 

[flying free]

Thanks for trying again.
It's probably me, but I cannot see that the base is highly polished. In my opinion it isn't.
I'm also curious about the feathers. I can't tell from your pictures whether or not they are the same as the V nason ones, but in fairness, the other pics I've linked to (apart from the excellent 20th century glass site pics) aren't that clear on close ups of the feathers bubbled effect either so it's hard to compare.
I'm just adding another thread on fossilfly here - there are more pictures including a lovely parrot but that one has a ground but unpolished base.  Then  underneath that shot of the parrot ground base Ingela has posted another piece with a base shot showing a Marcolin piece.  You can see what a highly polished base would look like in that picture.  Does yours look as shiny and completely see through as this one?
http://www.fossilfly.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=222&highlight=marcolin&page=2
I've only had one Nason animal and lots of vases/boxes and all have been  highly polished hence my query.
m