Topic: small pressed glass jug

[bat20]

Hi all,i love this little jug,it's got a lozenge but i'm finding it hard to read due to being clear glass and at a funny angle at the bottom of the jug,for it's age it amazingly has no damage at all!It looks like a sort of bamboo pattern with flowers on it?at about 6cm height i'm thinking small cream jug,i'll keep looking at the mark but in the meantime anyone know the maker from the look of it.

[bat20]

ahh,i've found a sowerby trade mark i think and 1880, 9th of january marks no mention of jug in thompson though,but 3 rd's on that date.

[agincourt17]

Your creamer is Sowerby pattern number 1449, shown on page 50 of their pattern book XI (1885), with a diamond symbol next to it confirming that it is, indeed, a registered design.

I attach a photo of the 1449 creamer in white vitro-porcelain for comparison.

There is a matching sugar bowl (but it has little ball feet rather than a single foot like the creamer) though currently I don’t have a reference photo for it. .

As you say, Sowerby registered three designs on 9 January 1880: (
345042 (described by Jenny Thompson as a vase)
345043 (described by Jenny Thompson as a square trinket)
345044 (described by Jenny Thompson as a square sugar basin).

RD 345044 is actually Sowerby pattern number 1464 (also shown on page 50 of the Sowerby pattern book XI, 1885), so the pattern number 1449 creamer is presumably from RD 345042 or RD 354043. Unfortunately, I don’t know exactly which is the correct RD number for it (but perhaps Paul S. has it in his design representation reference photos).

Fred.

[bat20]

Thanks Fred,love the milk glass one,i wonder what the pattern was called and if the flower belongs to the plant,a bit of artistic licence perhaps and nothing wrong with that,i hope i find the sugar at some point they have a real charm about them.

[Paul S.]

wish I did have them   .........        for some reason I don't seem to have these pix - there's a hole in the sequence, so I shall have to visit Kew.          Will try in the coming week some time.

[Paul S.]

some information from the National Archives.

Looking at the drawings in the Representations for Rd. Nos. 345042 - 43 and 44, it appears as though Sowerby were registering shapes only - typical of the purple ink illustrations from that factory during this period.             42 is described as a 'round vase' - 43 is called a 'new square trinket', and 44 is labelled as a 'square sugar' - and all agree with the word descriptions provided by Jenny Thompson  -  obviously they were keen on the word square that day           Pictures from the Representations book are attached.

Regret this is the sum total of the information accompanying these Registrations, but hope of some use.

[agincourt17]

Thank you, Paul.

The design representation for RD 345044 is certainly in accord with the square sugar basin.

Odd though that the shapes shown in the design representations of RD 345042 and RD 345043 seem to bear no relationship whatsoever with the floral creamer, despite its lozenge. Nice to have the references nonetheless.

Fred.

[bat20]

Interesting stuff,does this mean the floral design is unique to the creamer.

[Paul S.]

intriguing .......   leaving aside the factory pattern No. for a moment, is it possible that the lozenge details from the creamer have been mis-read  -  I'm not criticizing, but thinking of possible reasons why presently the item and Rd. No. are no matching.             Regrettably I don't have any examples of these pieces with which to cross-check.

[bat20]

I'll double check mine,not that easy as it's not a strong impression on the base but gets better as it moves up the side,i'm not sure on the day,fairly sure on j for year and c for month.