Topic: Karl Wiedmann, Gralglas -- or rather not?

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This is a signed Gral Glas hutte Wiedmann vase  (see link below) and looking at the decor I can see the similarities between that and Anik's multicoloured ball candle holders ... but not the plain blue one with chlorides, if you see what I mean?  or the vases Michael has shown.
http://www.auctions-fischer.de/catalogues/online-catalogues/210-european-glass-studio-glass.html?L=1&kategorie=101&artikel=26911&cHash=b014c48f2b
m

[rocco]

First -- thanks a lot Dirk for chiming in and showing the pieces side by side!
I was hoping for your expert knowledge in this matter...

So debate seems to be open

@m: the vase you linked to in the Fischer auctions is from a range called Unikat "Herbstwald" (= "autumnal forest"), which is pictured in the Gralglas book. Rather scarce as far as I know.

Michael

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Thank you - so this is a different decor ?
And I can see that side by side there may be more bubbles and chloride in Anik's multi coloured ball candle holders here (see thread below) than in the vase
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,38212.msg210513.html#msg210513
http://www.auctions-fischer.de/catalogues/online-catalogues/210-european-glass-studio-glass.html?L=1&kategorie=101&artikel=26911&cHash=b014c48f2b

But they have similarities especially in the use of colour when you compare them side by side.
The plain blue and chlorides ball candle holder doesn't look the same.
I would still say there might be hope for the multi coloured candle holders to be Gral -glas or Wiedmann.

m

[dirk.]

Possibly too hard to capture in a picture, but all the ball-shaped candleholders (and the 2 matching vases)
are much more obviously from the same maker when you handle them and see them from different
perspectives.
The vary for different reasons. First they have different base colours and second the use of powders is
quite different. Sometimes also the powders on the candleholders with large splotches show areas
where these form such small ´eyes´ of yellow. This may be an unintended or based on technique, but
as my first picture suggests this process might also be controllable.

´Herbstwald´ is a different range indeed; the colours are based on a scheme Wiedmann used for some
Ikora pieces already though. These - as far as I know and have seen - are always signed.

You´re invited for a coffee and a meal and some studies 1st hand at my place of course... 

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aaah thank you
Next time I am in Germany I will let you know.

m