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Author Topic: Mystery (art nouveau?) vase, opaque teal with golden iridescent crackle pattern  (Read 3500 times)

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Offline flying free

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See post above and also I wonder if there is a possibility it might be a studio glass piece as another option?
I remember looking for Frank a few years ago and coming across an American maker who made a fairly opaque crackle glass finish.
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Would not suprise me if some crackle pieces are actually the result of the pattern in the mold rather than the cold water process. Several U.S. companies in the 30s did it on a mass scale.

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This is the thread where the types of crackle were discussed previously.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,38630.msg213412.html#msg213412
and I've found the studio glass maker I was thinking of but it's not the same as yours (it was a long time ago in my defense :) )

http://www.jeffpriceartglass.com/GlassGallery/glass_gallery.htm
and that thread
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22057.msg124400.html#msg124400

Nothing similar there.
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Thanks a lot for your comments (and research), m :)

It is a mystery piece...

To answer some of your questions:
construction from outside to inside: (I think) clear casing - teal - golden iridescent crackle - dark blue - ochre (fading to green towards rim)
Dark blue only shows in the golden crackle areas.
And I really don't know why this blue layer exists; maybe you're right and it is partly responsible for the teal colour.

I attach a close-up pic of the wear to the base, which to my eye looks as I would expect in a piece of some age.
There is also a bigger blue area visible.

I would rather think it is not a studio piece.
But if it is old or new -- I cannot tell.

Michael

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I'm going with old and Kralik at the moment and will do some more searching for you on that basis :)
They did use this colour teal and their crackle pieces I believe showed the goldy crackle showing in the veins as well.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/342414377891495329/
I'll try and find a better link for that teal colour.
here
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/83316-beautiful-kralik-webbed-ball-vase--red
As far as is known they also did do two layer two colour crackle as well - I'll find a link in a mo.

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Thanks m!
Yes, definately a similar colour there...

Great that you do some research for me :)

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I will be interested to see what the research turns up.  However, until it does, my vote goes to the contemporary manufacture, or perhaps 1950s to 1960s if not.  Have you studied the wear on the base with a magnifying lens and compared it to wear patterns on 100 year old vases?  Base wear can happen naturally and very quickly by it being kept on a rough surface or it can even be added by someone trying to make a piece something that it is not.  Also, I can see why someone might suggest art nouveau, but to my eye it does not fit that style very much.

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Michael, this is a bigger piece and I don't know if the id is correct, but I think the shape of yours reminded me of something like this shape?  I couldn't find a vase though only this jug.
There are lots of pinched or 'dimpled' vases from the Bohemian makers and I think your vase does remind me of those.  But finding a good shape match hasn't been possible.
I suppose it might be 'newer' Czechoslovakian production taking inspiration from the older shapes perhaps?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARRACH-YELLOW-WHITE-MARMORIERTES-PITCHER-APPLIED-AMBER-HANDLE-RARE-BOHEMIAN-/171511465501?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27eee1461d

I feel it must be possible to match the shape because it is mold blown.  So it must exist somewhere :)
 
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I have also been trawling and can't find an exact match either shape or crackle!
Most of the older crackle seems to be of a "finer" technique on the thinner glass, I did find a couple of small vases (USA) in a rounder shape with  similar crackle, they were "possible Stevens & Williams" attribution which I don't think was correct, I just wish I could find the other similar ones I've seen - I think a couple were on Ebay (USA) - I looked at them as they reminded me of the Monart Cloisonne effect.

if I find anything I'll post!
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this is not the same either but I remember what decor I had seen that squarish pinched shape on
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7570660  (see the picture with the ruler as it shows the pinches well.)

It's not the same shape and I haven't been able to find one the same shape.  But at least I remembered where I had seen similar before.
I will keep an eye out though just in case it is an old piece.
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