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Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« on: July 15, 2015, 02:10:16 PM »
Hi there,
im new to this board and hope you all can help me with the identifiction
of this little vase i found yesterday. I think it might be designed by Miroslav Klinger
but i found nothing similiar. Also i have no clue what studio produced this...
Thanks in advance and nice to be here  :)

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Re: Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2015, 05:04:09 PM »
Sorry, just saw that this board is not for identification, please move it if thats possible. Very sorry again  :-[

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Re: Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2015, 05:56:21 PM »
Hello and welcome to the board. Your topic has been moved to Glass, which is an ID forum, so please don't worry.  If you do post in the wrong plkace by accident just add a reply asking a Moderator to move it for you and one of us will oblige. We know it takes a wee while to get used to how the board works. :) There are Help files in the Help and Announcements forum too which are always worth a browse if you get stuck, or just ask for help and it will be given.

Now to your vase, it's gorgeous! Does it change colour under different types of light - e.g. go blue under fluorescent or low-energy bulbs? If so it will be neodymium glass (neodymium is a rare earth added to the glass.)  If it stays that lovely colour it isn't!

Could you add a picture of the base and the dimensions please, as these will also be helpful in identification. Thanks!
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Re: Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2015, 06:22:54 PM »
Hey Anne and thanks for your help and for moving the topic, really appreciate that  :)

I made a shot of the base, sadly it has a small chip at one side.

The color actually changes with the light, really interesting. I am more of a "woodguy" so all things glass are new to me  ;D

The dimensions are: Height around 25 cm, width around 10,5 cm

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Re: Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 08:56:58 AM »
Definately Czech and ZBS (and very likely designed by Miloslav Klinger).
Here is an interesting thread regarding these designs (with a comment by Mark Hill): http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,33956.msg184651.html#msg184651

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Re: Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 12:18:24 PM »
Thank you Michael, that helps alot.
Seems like i have to dig a little deeper and read more about all this :)

Im tending more in the direction of an older original and not a "replica" cause i got
it from an older woman at a private fleemarked. But it seems without any label
you cant be sure...

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Re: Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2015, 10:05:23 PM »
I think im getting closer to solve the mistery...slowly :)
Found the same vase as mine today on ebay and it claims that its a design by A. Zadikov for Moser
done in the 60s. After some research i found a few other vases from Zadikov with the same pattern, but also
found a few vases with the same pattern claiming its a design by Miroslav Klinger for ZBS. Problem is,
all sources i could find are from ebay and no label on any of them. Same with the vases that have the same shape but without the
pattern, all attributed to Klinger for ZBS but no label on any i found.

Ok, getting closer veeeery slowly  ;D

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Re: Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2015, 06:21:56 AM »
You have to remember that Moser is generally a wishful attribution and that modern Moser is generally marked. Ebay and other auctions are generally also very unreliable sources of attribution.

This piece is also 1960s-80s and Arnold Zadikov died in about 1943! (that info from Moser book: Moser 1857-1997). And, finally, Moser Alexandrit is much more pink

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Re: Help ID Czech Vase by Miroslav Klinger?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 11:29:08 AM »
Thank you,

i figured something like that. Could not find any authentic Moser vase that looks
similiar to mine. But i finally found a piece with the same pattern and an original ZBS label.

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