Topic: whose millefiori?

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Whose canes are these: early Strathearn, Jack Allen, late Strathearn, Paul Ysart. Butterflies and eight cog canes I'm pretty sure are Ysart. Thoughts?

[mjr]

what is the prize for getting them all 

[alpha]

Since I don't know the answers myself (even though I should), I think of it more as an intellectual experience. I just don't seem to know my English and Scottish stuff as well as I should, especially when the canes are by themselves and not in a paperweight.

[daveweight]

HI There
It would help if your pictures were bigger and they could be blown up to see more detail but the limit of picture size on this board will not allow this. I think some, if not the majority of your canes could be Strathearn and Ysart and here are two pictures from my cane collection showing a selection of their canes so you can see the similarity.
Hope this is of interest
Dave

[Lustrousstone]

The OP's picture could be much bigger; it is only 14 kb. Pictures of a few canes at a time might be good too

[KevinH]

I believe most are Ysart Brothers / "Salvador Ysart 1930s".

Canes 2 C and 4 D (one of the butterfly canes) are included in the well-published images of a selection of "Salvador canes" - see, for example, inside covers of Bob Hall's Scottish Paperweights book.]

Note that the two Butterfly canes are different. The one at 1 C is an example that I had only seen in some Paul Ysart weights, until a few weights turned up with that cane and which were clearly Salvador Ysart / Ysart Brothers.

It was the use of the 4 D cane in both Paul's work and Ysart Brothers & later Vasart (etc.) that gave the first clear evidence of "1930s cane sharing" at the time when Paul stayed at Moncrieff's and his brothers and father formed Ysart Brothers Glass. The 1 C cane has now been confirmed as also being a "shared cane".

[Above two paragraphs edited to get my info straight!]

Three that I cannot determine are: 3 C, 4 C & 6 C (need close-up details of each)

Ones that are possibly Ysart Brothers / "Salvador Ysart 1930s", but which I do not recall seeing before are: 5 A, 3 D, 1 E and 7 E (close-up views would be useful as the internal elements may prove what they are)

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Sorry, I'm giving up on the frustration of getting the pictures of the individual canes cropped and into the right 125kb size. Maybe tomorrow night.

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[KevinH]

Thanks for the individual cane pics. Taking them in order, top to bottom, I believe they are:

1. (5 C cane) = Salvador Ysart / Ysart Brothers

2. (4 C cane) = Strathearn (but uses some elements from the pre-56 years)

3. (3 C cane) = Not sure; Strathearn likely but might be Perthshire Paperweights?

4. (2 D cane) = Salvador Ysart / Ysart Brothers

5. (3 D cane) = Strathearn?; looks too neat for "early" and uses teal colour but also has elements from pre-56 years

6. (5 B cane) = Salvador Ysart / Ysart Brothers (quite tidy and all elements seem to be "early")