Apologies Peter. I never know whether to add another post or amend and was aware you hadn't seen that extra info drawn from the book. So yes, I think there appears to have been quite a crossover of style probably.
I don't know whether they would have needed to import glass at that time - it's very hard to be definite about details of course. But I presume it's possible. The gist of what I've been reading is that there was quite a lot of glass making around in the 18th.
'More than 80 private glassworks were built in Russia during the 1700s.' Page 18
and there is more.
However, I would guess that any information is pretty hard to come by and I don't get the feeling from reading the information, that it's complete, because as is always the case, I think it simply isn't possible to portray a definitive and complete picture with the information that has been or is available.
From what I read Maltsov was the big producer ' By 1738, the Mozhaysk factory had turned into one of the major enterprises of the Russian glass industry.' and it goes on to give details of number of furnaces and engraving wheels and they are numerous.
However, also from what I read they were short of skilled workmen and amongst other measures to redress this, it does say that three Bohemian masters were signed by Vasili Maltsov in 1730 including a Joseph Genkin(an engraver) who stayed at the factory from 1730-1737 and then moved to Gottlieb Stenzel's factory in Dukhanino.
The book also acknowledges that without signatures it's difficult now to determine which engraved glasses can be attributed to the Maltsovs. But re the reindeer goblet it says
'A typical specimen of Maltsov's production is a goblet with gilded engraving that shows a running wounded deer and the inscription " A Flight from Illness' (no.9).' .... 'The goblet may have been engraved by Stepan Lagutin, who began to work at the Maltsov glasshouse in 1732. He was trained by Joseph Genkin and later replaced him as the leading master. '
As I said earlier quoting from the book, Genkin was a Bohemian master so I'm guessing from that, that there will have possibly been some Bohemian influence in the engraving and possibly influence passed on from Bohemian master to Russian engraving master who replaced him.
And on page 19 it says ' ...This chronology shows that in the first half of the 18th century, glass was engraved in Russia in at least four private factories besides those in Yamburg and St Petersburg.'
It's very interesting. Mostly because I absolutely love Russian glass and design and especially, for me, the 19th century glass. They are exquisitely made with great precision and design details, very graphic, confident, glass in terms of colour, cutting, engraving and overall design.
And once you start looking at 19th century, then you start looking at 18th century and so it goes ...
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