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Offline Vitrum Veteris

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Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:25:41 PM »
I have acquired an Art Nouveau vase of particularly fine quality.  I have attached some photographs. The glass is particularly thin and the feather and blaze cutting done to a high standard.  It measures 10 inches tall by 8 3/4 inches wide by 4 inches deep but weighs only 421gm.  It rings as fine crystal should.  I have ruled out Stevens and Williams as it is not a known pattern.  Nor is it Walsh Walsh because they did not use glass teardrop designs.  It has a Powell quality to it and seems too fine/thin glass to be Stuart.  It looks typically English circa 1910.  It would be very satisfying to be able to identify who this was by.

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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2017, 01:20:22 AM »
Welcome :)

Well it's a long short but Wilhelm Steigerwald, Regenhutte did do some pieces with applied green trails and 'sunburst' cutting.  However I've not seen anything like your vase.  Their pieces seem to be plainer with straight rims and the green trails are laid into the glass like comet tails rather than applied tadpole trails if you see what I mean?

Still, worth investigating as they may have done different ranges.
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/auktionshaus-mehlis/catalogue-id-srauktio10009/lot-6817336b-1774-475f-8a04-a5f700ed6bb4

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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2017, 07:46:13 AM »
Thank you for your reply.  This has given me another lead and I will explore this possibility further.  Much appreciated.  If you are correct and I find I definitive answer then I will let you know.  Kind regards, N

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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 12:05:13 PM »
I saw this beauty yesterday, and last night I was having nightmares about being the person having to cut something that delicate, without having the skill to do so. It exploded. ;D
It is a stunning piece. :)
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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 01:36:29 PM »
' I have ruled out Stevens and Williams as it is not a known pattern'

How do you know this by the way?  Just curious  :-[

And this Stuart and Sons vase has a star cut foot in a similar vein -
http://www.nouveauglass.co.uk/english-and-scottish-glass/stuart-and-sons/

Also is there a reason why not Whitefriars as a possibility?

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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2017, 01:41:16 PM »
I did think the cutting was a Stuart-y style.
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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2017, 01:48:08 PM »
Theresienthal had Stengelgläser in their 1903 catalogue that has similar cutting so that might help on dating (I don't have any idea if they ever made anything with applied tadpoles though) :
 Römer 1496 mit Schliff 3204

scroll down the page to see it on the right hand side, plain glass
http://www.roemer-aus-theresienthal.de/stengelglaeser.html

edited to add - actually if you scroll down the page they did do some trailed and applied pieces

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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2017, 03:18:19 PM »
Reply to 'Flying-Free'.  I have a contact who is a true expert on Stevens & Williams and who has copies of the pattern books.  I am confident I can rely on his word on this.  I appreciate contributions to the forum.  Thank you for your help and suggestions. I don't feel I am much further at this point.  The Stuart star cutting is different.  Any early Stuart pieces I have handled have all been heavy.  I have not seen a Stuart piece with blaze cutting from the edge.  As for Whitefriars, I cannot find a Powell example similar to this in any of the books I have looked through, including the patterns, and it has a 'sharp' unpolished pontil to the centre which is, as far as I am aware, uncharacteristic of Whitefriars.  The Theresianthal suggestions are promising but not yet convincing.

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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 03:37:08 PM »
oh thanks :) I did wonder (re the S &W)
The green is also an odd green - sort of pale olive it appears.  Not a green I've seen on peacock trailed pieces and I know what you mean about the heft v Stuart.

There is a book on Regenhutte glass and I believe that has the patterns in it.  But I don't have it unfortunately.
btw Theresienthal and Regenhutte are linked somehow but I'm not sure how - through Steigerwald I think.

You could try emailing it to Stephan who is the owner of the Theresienthal site.  He posts on the board occasionally so perhaps if you do a search the envelope by his name may be there to email him.

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Re: Art Nouveau Vase of outstanding quality
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 04:28:28 PM »
Walsh Walsh might be an option. The fan shape is typical, as is the sharp pontil mark and they were pretty good at cutting

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