Topic: Czech/ Bohemian Lemonade(?) Drink set

[veitc]

Bought this set at auction in England and have spend a fair bit of time on google looking at similar images but nothing much the same.  I like to know something about every piece of glass I own.  Also asked my friend who is a Czech glass cutter from many many years back and all he could give me was they were Bohemian.  Also would never dream of selling any of my glass with a famous name on it if that is not the case.

I saw similar images by Biedermeier and Egermann but I am sure there are lots and lots similar but unknown manufacturers and I have learnt not to trust images from Ebay sales.

My main query is:
Would this be a Victorian era set or later? 
What determines a really good etching ?

It seems in Victorian time there were lemonade sets rather than water sets.  The jug is 19 cm at the tallest point going down to around 15 cm at the handle. It has a capacity around 800 mL.
The glasses are 9 cm in height and hold 100 mL. 
Maybe it was made for something stronger? 

Is there anyone can point me in a direction.  I am not planning to collect this style of glass as I collect other older glass but thought the set was very nice even though it was missing one glass.

The animals on the glasses are (I think) elk, deer, fawn, hunting dog and rabbit.  so I guess it reflects ' hunting' or just animal life. 

Thanks to anyone that can help.

[Paul S.]

hi  -  your pieces are probably 'flashed' - stained red rather than the colour being a glass overlay process  ..........   such material with a cranberry/ruby stain has formed a staple diet of the tourist trade from c. 1850 to 1950 and possibly still does.       You should be able to tell the difference between flashing and overlay depending on the thickness of the colour.     I suspect the images are wheel engraved as opposed to etching, and what determines the quality of decoration is probably the detail in the image  -  the finer the better  -  the more coarse then less quality. 

IMHO these are C20 pieces and intended for the tourist trade, and some indication of age, though not infallible, might be the extent of wear  -  I would have thought their use might have been more possibly for water rather than lemonade, bearing in mind the probable eastern European origin, but that's just my opinion.          C19 pieces are associated with the Biedermeier style, and you're right about Egermann being near the top of the list for these stained pieces  -  genuine C19 material is likely to be thicker than later pieces, and I'd suggest that 'sets' of such things were a later phenomenon.

My opinion is that you are almost certainly going to draw a blank re attribution and exact origin - unless matching pieces can be found with positive provenance  -  what was the auction house description when your purchased this set?       
May we see a close up picture of the underside of the jug/pitcher and ditto of one of the tumblers please.  thanks.

[Lustrousstone]

I suspect the jug has been cut down. The engraving is way too close to the rim and there is no pouring lip. I too say 20th C