Topic: Davidson catalogue 157 or 195? Slag Spooner

[thewingedsphinx]

Paul, thanks very much for showing that.  Neither of these two have that decorative outline pattern. But the foliage does have some similarities I will post some better pictures hopefully this evening.
I think we're getting close. I can't find much more on this registration.
It may take me a couple of weeks to decipher the number on the lid.
Thanks
Mike

[Paul S.]

Mike - believe you were missing the lid to the purple marbled 'marmalade' - the piece you sold at the glass fair - so how do we know for certain that its original lid did have a Greener lion mark - is it just by comparison perhaps - because your clear glass 'very rare biscuit barrel of the same pattern' does have a lion mark on its lid?
Of course, two different shapes, but identical patterns, would be expected to have the same trade mark, but life always throws up exceptions to the rules.

putting brain in gear, the blindingly obvious now occurs to me ...…………..    a Registration from July 1882 would not appear on the glass as a straightforward digit number, since 1882 was the last but one full year of lozenges.           So if you have simply the No. 383640 on your glass, then we have a problem and on the face of it 383640 cannot refer to the design of this marmalade/spooner and biscuit barrel.       Your thoughts please.


 

[thewingedsphinx]

Hi Paul,
The chap who bought my pot already has another with a lid and that lid has a Greener trademark the pots come in different sizes.He had a good lid but poor pot so he wanted mine.
 The point in your last paragraph is a very good point so I will go back to the drawing board and try to decipher the number again. Thanks for explaining all that out.
I’m hoping to hear more from the pot man later. Cheers Mike

[Paul S.]

thanks Mike  -  wait to see if there's any other suggestion for the Reg. No. on your biscuit barrel.

[thewingedsphinx]

Here is a purple slag one, listed as Davidson but no lid. They have a couple of sizes listed.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-25-Davidson-Purple-Slag-Barrel-Vase-Jar-Antique-Large-English/143193135783?hash=item2156f9daa7:g:tzwAAOSwb15b-1Op


So I'm still guessing, think I need a better magnifying glass.

[thewingedsphinx]

I can make out a couple of zero’s and in another view find a 2. Could Greener have registered more than one pattern under a registration number? Rd 182002 ? there is a different biscuit barrel with that reg no. In the gallery.
Forever hopeful Mike

[Paul S.]

Dear hopeful of the GMB....
back in 2007 Bernard Cavelot posted a Henry Greener canary yellow u. toothpick holder tumbler under Rd. 182002 -  having now looked at that piece Mike, I don't see any connection with your glass, and although 'suites' could be quite large in terms of variety of shapes, I don't see 182002 - dated 20th October 1891, being anything related to yours.             Bernard's item shows a simple pressed grid pattern possibly imitating cut glass  -  is this the pattern on the biscuit barrel you've been looking at?
I get the impression that in the C19, manufacturers were more conscious of one Registration for one shape or one design (this did allow for multiple shapes, but each carrying identical design)  -  I don't think there would have ever been a single Rd. No. covering more than one design.

Unfortunately, I don't have any Kew pix for 182002, but will try to remember to look at a later date.