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Is this vase Murano
« on: March 29, 2020, 01:47:17 PM »
Hi everyone, sorry if Im making mistakes in where/how im posting but I have a question: I have a massive collection of glass ranging from 18th century over art nouveau and art deco but Italian glass I tend to struggle with - I think this maybe Italian.

It crackled glass - blue opalescent on the inside, gold inclusions in the outer layer on a ruby base with a quality pointil mark.

It should be at least 70 years old

Any ideas?

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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2020, 06:26:54 PM »
Can you add a photo of the base please.

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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2020, 07:06:04 AM »
Hi there. I have to admit this one is really throwing me for a loop. I've had this vase for years and im pretty good at detective work... but i swear I have no clue ... ???

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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2020, 01:58:46 PM »
Thank you. The opalescent blue is a surprise but also very distinctive - hopefully it may help.

Another photo of the whole vase would be good that shows the shape without distortion - the camera really needs to be close to level with the middle of the vase - hoping the shape might offer a clue.

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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2020, 02:33:42 PM »
Hello there,

Agreed the blue interior is very distictive - in addition the gold inclusions are very fine and slightly darker then what you'd normally find. I've gone down the route of Bohemian glass too because of the crackled glass texture but I cant seem to find any maker that combined all these techniques. Pic in attachment


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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2020, 02:42:32 PM »
The closest on a quick look is Loetz Mimosa Rosa: https://www.loetz.com/decors-a-z/mimosa-rosa

but no blue interior. Still might be worth asking Loetz collectors for their opinion. Is the blue just in the neck or does it run into the vase?

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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2020, 03:07:17 PM »
Hey there  :) I've gone down the same route but the crackle is deeper than that of a Loetz piece plus I can't find any gold inclusion pieces and non with the interior layer - please find as attachment the interior pic of the vase.

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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2020, 04:26:13 PM »
This is a really interesting and mysterious beast. ;D
First thoughts were that it is very like (but absolutely isn't) Dartington Studio "Alchemy", then my guts veer to WMF, which I don't think it is either.
It is certainly something of serious quality.  8)

I do know of a Bohemian Tye shape Hyacinth, which was opalescent pale blue, (as is the internal pale blue in this) and it was also Uranium.

Does the internal layer react to ultra violet light? Is it Uranium as well as opalescent?
It would be such an unusual combination of things to find, they may be related?

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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2020, 06:20:37 PM »
Hi Sue,

Thanks for your help & thoughts - I've just checked and it's not uranium - it may help to know the vase was found in Belgium and it came from an estate where most items came from the 1920s-1930s - the scuff marks underneath also indicate 100 years of wear.

I agree this is a high end quality piece - my collection ranges from Gallé to Daum and most is high end art nouveau and art deco and I think it's from this period - it's definitely not Belgian as I know their production quite well so Im torn between Italy & Bohemia.

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Re: Is this vase Murano
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2020, 06:29:13 PM »
My own major area is early European (and a little American) Studio Glass. I only really dabble around in other areas, but I know something good when I see it.  ;D
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