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Author Topic: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?  (Read 2010 times)

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Offline keith

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Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« on: May 14, 2020, 03:19:16 PM »
4.5 inches tall, marks to the foot, top and bottom, what causes the opalescence ?  ??? ;D

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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2020, 03:23:20 PM »
 :) Perhaps some random inclusion of potash?
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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2020, 03:46:51 PM »
So it isn’t just the water staining/damage on the inside surface? Looks like a proper deception glass with thick walls :)
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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2020, 03:51:25 PM »
Hi Keith  -  are you sure this isn't a case of 'bloom' on the surface of the glass - rather than true opalescence?     Apparently soda-line glass is susceptible to blooming - something to do with build up of crystals on the surface of the glass.
What age are you suggesting for this piece - it may have some bearing on the breakdown of the surface of the glass  -  you might try an abrasive or polishing compound on part of the affected area and see if there's any change.
The mark on the foot looks like the 'T' mark from the shears  -  you might fill with wine so we can see the capacity of the bowl ;D

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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2020, 04:07:27 PM »
It looks like water staining a little in the first pic - more like a true opalesence in the second pic.
What does it truly look like? ;D
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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2020, 05:47:15 PM »
No idea if it's potash Sue, doesn't look like any water staining I've seen before, the capacity is quite small but the glass is chunky round the base but nothing like the deception glasses I have, the 'bloom' or whatever it is can only be seen in very strong light. Quite heavy for it's size, plenty of wear, maybe late Victorian, Edwardian ? ( wish I'd never started collecting drinking glasses ! )  ::) ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2020, 05:56:24 PM »
You can feel water staining. It's not all smooth and shiney. I imagine bloom on a surface would also feel different.  :)
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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2020, 08:14:38 PM »
Definitely not water staining, seen lots of that, can't feel anything. oh well only cost £3 and it looks good with the others so I'm happy  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2020, 10:11:51 AM »
Clear as a bell in normal daylight  ??? ??? ;D

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Re: Wine glass with odd touch of opalescence ?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2020, 12:20:17 PM »
It must be in the glass, whatever it is - and only very faintly. Opalesence does require the light at the correct angle to show up, especially if it's very diluted.
It is sounding like an accidental potash inclusion, to me.

Is potash something likely to be flying around occassionally in an old glassworks?
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