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Offline essi

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Could be my earliest item of glass.
« on: August 25, 2024, 12:04:59 AM »
Bought today advertised as a cake stand. Am i right in thinking this is an earlyish English tazza?
It has a moulded stem and a lovely domed and folded foot.
Broken unpolished pontil scar.
I'm not sure if the slightly clouded stem is as made or it is some defect.
It has decent wear marks on the outer edge of the folded foot, one piece of frit and one small bubble on the top section.
5.5 inches tall, top section 8 inches wide and the bottom section is 5.75 wide.
Green reaction to UV light.
grateful for any comments.
Tim

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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2024, 02:36:05 AM »
  Seems to be the real deal. For the most part comparable with one I have. I dob't think the cloudiness in the stem intentional.

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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2024, 03:03:05 AM »
Yes nice Georgian footed salver or tazza, 1780 ish. There’s even a book just on these cake plates, Glass in Eighteenth Century England: Footed Salver
Kelsall, R.K.

https://scottishantiques.com/georgian-table-glass/Candlesticks-lighting-lamps-tazza-and-stands/?product_id=34351
 

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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2024, 08:05:58 AM »
very nice piece .................   as to the slight green reaction under the u.v., have a look at this ...........      https://libanswers.cmog.org/faq/143996 .          Weren't there some comments from back in the 1970s - 1990s - about a well known British maker's wares, that the slight cloudiness in a particular stem was the remnant of the 'glass blowers last breath'  -  might have been a piece from somewhere like King's Lynn or Wedgwood Glass ;)

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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2024, 05:45:10 PM »
Thanks those who responded to my inquiry.
Very pleased to have this piece of glass in my collection.
I'll live with the cloudiness in the stem and remember the quote about the glass blowers last breath :)
Thanks again,
Tim

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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2024, 07:37:47 PM »
Very nice find.
Here's a similar tazza that I have with two jelly glasses. I think mine is late 18th Century,  1780-90 ish. Domed and folded foot, hollow stem, folded top  rim and slightly wonky sitting top as you can see from the way the jelly glasses are sitting. Have read that on the 19th Century tazza's fairly early in the century they started turning the folded foot rim up instead of down and underneath. Not sure how true that is and whether all manufacturers followed the practice. I've only ever come across one anyway!
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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2024, 09:49:24 PM »
Lovely example Keith.
When looking for examples of my tazza ,one comment i saw was that they were good for displaying other items of old glass on top.(in modern times)
Such a plain shape but lots of character. I read along the way somewhere that cake stands did not have a raised edge (not sure if that is true)
The pictures of tazza's in situ on the table i have seen show them loaded with fruit or food.
Tim

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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2024, 10:21:32 PM »
Hi essi
Tazza's were used back in the day for sweetmeats, kind of like dessert type food, which were served from smaller bowls such as the jelly glasses in my pictures. Different sized tazza's were even stacked on top of one another with the serving glasses standing around the outer edge of each layer.
The Georgians new how to dine, although they ate some pretty questionable food by our standards!
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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2024, 09:27:31 AM »
I don't know anything about the glass but I think the cloudiness in the stem is intentionally opalescent.

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Re: Could be my earliest item of glass.
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2024, 04:09:23 PM »
Thanks for the input M, would be interesting if its right.
Will have a look about to see if there is anything similar.
Tim

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