Author Topic: Jacobean jug - Clayton Mayers (Read 5026 times)

Anne E.B. · « **on:** October 31, 2006, 02:26:04 PM »

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/jacobean001.jpg

Just for interest, I've just bought this large Jacobean jug which I thought at first was made by Davidson. However, I was able to I.D. this from Glen's article as being made by Clayton Mayers. It has a registration no. impressed on its star cut base 791409 (1934). Quite a heavy piece, but lovely nevertheless.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Jacob2.html

David E · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2006, 03:43:49 PM »

Anne, were you aware of the 3-part cast-iron Inwald mould for one of these jugs I found at Himley Hall?

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3006

Two other photos accompany this. You might have been in the process of moving so might not have been aware of these.

Frank · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2006, 04:22:51 PM »

Clayton Mayers were distributors, not makers.

Anne E.B. · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2006, 04:58:06 PM »

Quote from: "Frank"

Clayton Mayers were distributors, not makers.

:oops:
Perhaps I was right in thinking that it was Davidson then?

Thanks David for the link

Fascinating photos.

Glen · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:24:19 PM »

Anne, the Jacobean suite was made by both Inwald (in Czechoslovakia) and also (later) by Davidson. Inwald called the pattern "Lord" and it was also marketed by Markhbeinn (France) who called it "Milord".

Clayton Mayers were agents, wholesalers and distributors. They were experts in publicity and advertising and mounted some amazing campaigns in the UK to promote the extensive and hugely successful Jacobean range. They also acted on behalf of Inwald to register some of their designs. Details about this are in my article.

As a quick rule of thumb (before searching through catalogues etc), to determine if an item was made by Inwald or Davidson, I use the "mirror shiny base" test. If the base of the piece is highly polished / ground and stunningly mirror shiny, then it's almost certainly the Inwald version. The mirror shiny base is a characteristic of much of Inwald's high quality pressed glass. By default, if it doesn't have that characteristic mirror polish, then it's most likely Davidson.

I think I have a twin to your jug, and from memory, I think it is a Davidson one. Nice piece. :lol:

Glen

Anne E.B. · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2006, 06:13:21 PM »

Thank you Glen as always

ChrisStewart · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2006, 08:24:00 PM »

Hi Glen,

Quote from: "Glen"

As a quick rule of thumb (before searching through catalogues etc), to determine if an item was made by Inwald or Davidson, I use the "mirror shiny base" test. If the base of the piece is highly polished / ground and stunningly mirror shiny, then it's almost certainly the Inwald version. The mirror shiny base is a characteristic of much of Inwald's high quality pressed glass. By default, if it doesn't have that characteristic mirror polish, then it's most likely Davidson.

Glen

What about postwar machine made Jacobean? It is not clear who produced the machine made jacobean glass, all I know is that it was not Davidson but was an English company.

Davidson did not make the complete Jacobean range, of the 200 or so articles in the range (a tumbler made in five sizes counted as 5, so 200 is not as large as it sounds), Davidson only made about 83.

Regards

Chris

Tony H · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:06:49 AM »

Chris
How can you tell which is post war machine made and Davidson pre war pressed?

Tony H in NZ

ChrisStewart · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2006, 08:42:23 AM »

Hi Tony,

Good question to which I d not know the answer. All I do know is what jacobean designs Davidson made prewar.

In a 1950s article, Clayton Mayers did say that they had to make a small changes to the design of some (or all articles) to enable them to be machine made.

Regards

Chris