Topic: Jobling Green Bird Vase ID please - when is Jobling not Jobling?

[Glen]

Hi Connie - your wish............ 

http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Lovebirds.html

Glen

[Connie]

Hi Glen - Thank you so much for posting that picture.  Your vase is gorgeous but it is not the one I meant    Duh!! My fault, I should have known yours would be carnival glass 

The one I meant is a transparent purple shown on page 83 in Fenton Special Orders 1980-present.  I should have the read the legend of the picture more closely.  It was supposedly made in 1996 but varies from the other lovebird vases in that it has a smooth top and doesn't have the leaf background.

[Decolucretia]

These turn up in Australia relatively often, and appear in amber or green. All the green that I have seen has glowed under UV.

Are they common in any other parts of the world? Christine, Glen, Pamela, Connie, have you people ever seen anything like them? I really wouldn't have imagined them to be Australian, even an Australian copy, because the pattern is just too fussy.

Hi and thanks for the replies.  I didn't think that it was Australian made due to quality and feel of the glass    If I was to hazard a guess, it reminds me a little of English glass.  It certainly doesn't have the jagged edge of the fenton piece either.  I've just splashed out and purchased a decent digital camera and am discovering the joys of macro    I'll try to post another pic with more detail in the next few days (sometime between that distracting thing called work!).

[Cathy B]

Believe me, Australian's not entirely out of the question! That said, there's a world of unknown European pressed glass out there which it is just as likely to be as English.

[Decolucretia]

Believe me, Australian's not entirely out of the question! That said, there's a world of unknown European pressed glass out there which it is just as likely to be as English.

Wow.  I was under the impression (perhaps falsely) that Crown Crystal produced the majority of glass in Australia (20s-40s).  Does this mean there is a possibility that Crown Crystal produced this?  I have only handled 'lower' end every day goods produced by Crown Crystal.  Oh, I meant to mention before that the vase is more an apple frosted green colour.

[Cathy B]

Only a very small chance, Michelle - but then, I wouldn't have realised that they copied the Bagley 'Equinox' vases, Walther 'Greta' and made the incredible 'Futuristic' series, and that the Palms series seems to be copied from a Polish Hortensja pattern, if I hadn't seen the evidence.

Really don't think this is Australian, but I've learned not to be absolute. 

[Decolucretia]

I didn't realise that level of copying was going on in Australia.  I was aware of the Bagley copies but the greta vase by Walther??    I have a few of these and am going to give them a good once over now!  I am fast finding out that I know so little about glass, but that's half the fun isn't it - the long and never ending journey!

[Cathy B]

Me too, Michelle! I don't know the difference either - I have three. I'll start a new thread and ask Pamela about the genuine Walther version tomorrow - and photos and measurements of yours would be wonderful.

[Decolucretia]

Me too, Michelle! I don't know the difference either - I have three. I'll start a new thread and ask Pamela about the genuine Walther version tomorrow - and photos and measurements of yours would be wonderful.

Thanks Cathy.  I've finally gotten round to taking photos (still mastering new camera  ) and will upload soon and start new post with question about genuine Walther versions of greta.  I'll include measurements of mine.

[Decolucretia]

Me too, Michelle! I don't know the difference either - I have three. I'll start a new thread and ask Pamela about the genuine Walther version tomorrow - and photos and measurements of yours would be wonderful.

Thanks Cathy.  I've finally gotten round to taking photos (still mastering new camera  ) and will upload soon and start new post with question about genuine Walther versions of greta.  I'll include measurements of mine.

Hi again Cathy.  I finally got around to uploading the photos of the small Walther Greta vases.  They are approximately 20cm in length, 9.5cm width and 15.5cm tall.  I don't have much clear / frosted Walther to compare to but I am about to post another thread with a strange piece (Mowen) in clear frosted with a strange frosted (not black glass stand).  But back to the Greta vases.....perhaps they are not Greta vases...would be interested to hear from Pamela or others that can enlighten me re Australian copies.

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