Topic: Is this genuine Lalique

[scimiman]

Could any one tell me if this itme on ebay is genuine? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-ART-DECO-SEA-SHELL-GLASS-LALIQUE-1930s-TABLE-BOWL_W0QQitemZ110422654718QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Art_Glass?hash=item19b5b3fefe&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Many thanks Mike

[obscurities]

Mike will come along and verify for sure, but I would say no....  Does not even look close to the work of R Lalique to me....

Craig

[Mosquito]

An intereting looking bowl, but definitely not by Rene Lalique.

Steven

[Pinkspoons]

'Musling' bowl by Per Lütken for Holmegaard in c.1995.

I wish I could get prices like that for them!  

Seller has been informed that the signature is a fake, and of the true attribution - we shall see...

[scimiman]

He has threatened to come and sort me out face to face, all the way from West Yorkshire oh yes and he is going to sue me as well. because I told him a perfume bottle was not Okra. I have also checked some of his Whitefriars and most of it is dodgy.

Nothing like the Ebay Experience.
Mike

[obscurities]

What a surprise..... !! 

Private auctions....  Since ebay hides bidder names, there is only one reason I can conjure up to run a private auction...  IMHO that reason is to hide the item when the feedback is posted, as the full bidder name is shown there.  IMHO it is to prevent other ebayers from contacting the buyer about the item they purchased once they are able to see who the bidder was, as there are some on ebay who will let a buyer know they have been, shall we say "sold a bill of goods".  With the proliferation of Paypal and the ability to easily claim for charge backs by a buyer for SNAD (Significantly Not As Described) like a Lalique claim that is not accurate, my experience is that sellers that use that option typically, at least to my observation, have a large number of attributions on merchandise that are questionable (I am being kind). As soon as feedback is posted, anyone can contact the buyer direct, except for the rare occasion where ebay gives you the message that they will not allow it because you are not "dealing" with that user.

Craig

[Mike M]

looks like you did not need me to say

'that's never Lalique -never in a million years'

Cheers

Mike

[Pip]

I have also checked some of his Whitefriars and most of it is dodgy.

Nothing like the Ebay Experience.
Mike

The 3 Whitefriars pieces he's selling currently are correctly attributed.

[scimiman]

Hi Pip.
I always thought that Whitefriars was blown into a mold with pontil attached to the base of the piece giving the top a hot smooth finnish and not ground off. This is how the pontil marked comes to be polished out.
Mike

[Pinkspoons]

Quite a few Whitefriars designs had ground and polished rims, so there was no need for a pontil to the base. Sometimes the bases were ground and polished flat (usually in the case of pieces with rounded forms that require their small surface area bases to be very flat to stand upright) or were just left as they were when they came out of the mould in the case of broader pieces.