Topic: Ysart (?) butterfly

[tropdevin]

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What does anyone think of the attribution of this butterfly paperweight?.  I have my doubts.

Alan

[Nick77]

Saw this myself last night on there, looks fake to me, even without the PY canes which look to be two colour with a dropped yalthough the image isn't too clear the quality just isn't there to me.

Nick

[w84it]

Same here.   Trouble is its already attracted 15 bids.   I have sent the seller a message questioning whether its genuine etc.

[KevinH]

I have advised the seller of the common clue to these weights - Yellow/Orange "p" and Pink "y" in the signature cane, and pointed to ysartglass.com fake py section for examples.

[w84it]

Thanks Kevin.  I said much the same to the seller and pointed him/her to the same website.   I've had  a polite reply claiming complete lack of knowledge and saying it will be looked into.


Keth

[Nick77]

Same seller has now listed 2 more Paul Ysart fakes!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stunning-Paperweight-butterflies-and-dragonfly-inside-and-signed-PY-/321083317110?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6006199522762419863%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D321083317110%26

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stunning-Paperweight-with-Scottish-Thistle-inside-and-signed-PY-/321083462072?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item4ac210d1b8

[chopin-liszt]

The listing says;
"From the collection of 800 paperweights collected by the late Ramon More" and "more to come".

The "fakes" are collectable in their own right - could it be that Ramon More knew this, but the seller doesn't?

[tropdevin]

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Hi Nick.  I see the seller is Lincolnshire.  I was told that the first batch of fakes appeared at one of the Newark Antiques Fairs, and a lot of people were taken in by them.  Maybe Ramon More bought them there?

Alan

[chopin-liszt]

Does anybody from the papwerweight afficionados around here know of Ramon More or his collection?

[tropdevin]

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Hi Sue.

Not a name I know....but...I think there are quite a few paperweight collectors out there who are not know to many (or any?) other collectors, some with fantastic collections. 

Alan