As far as I could tell, as in many things glass hard to be definitive. Both had bubbles and pale looking spots (for want of a better description) throughout. The glass matched some covered pots that Mike Moir had listed as Josephinenhutte some years ago, quite distinctive with green bodies and lids with opaque white handles. I had some pots exactly the same which glowed under UV and more recently the following have also come my way, again as far as I could tell Josephine.