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Offline LEGSY

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Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« on: October 25, 2019, 02:04:21 PM »
 :-\
Here i have a high uranium content jade green glass vase it really
jumps out with my key ring uv light from a fair distance away, Im
not to sure who or when made this and maybe somebody can put in their
views on the piece. It is unusual as it is lightly frosted outside but smooth
internally the base has a nice polished pontil scar and a ring of wear on the
edge of the foot :)
9" tall

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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2019, 02:20:50 PM »
I'm flummoxed by this - it looks rather new, but the base wear seems to contradict that.  ???
If something is moved around a lot, wear will appear more quickly, it's not always the most reliable of indicators, but is one well worth taking into consideration.  :)

What your pic of the base wear shows nicely is that the wear is only on a small and very thin ring of the base - where the bottom actually makes contact with a surface.

That is something to take into consideration when looking for any wear.
It can often be completely obscured because of the very fine point of contact.
The way to find it is with your fingernail - run it around the edges and you can often find fine wear you cannot see.
This piece would be very good for practising that on. You can see and feel the fine wear, so you should be able to find any obscured wear on other things, in the future.  :)

My very first thought, given the "new-ish" sort of look was that it might be Japanese.
But then I saw the wear.  :'(
 
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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2019, 05:19:51 PM »
 :)
Thank you for the great reply again, Really you confirmed exactly what my dad and i thought
the shape and finish made me think just modern decorative piece with nothing about it.
When i picked it up i thought it felt a good weight and seemed to have something about it
really confusing the wear is genuine also very fine marks built up over time not put there in a hurry..
I wonder if it maybe a piece from S & W? I wonder if the shape could be classed as sort of classical in a way :(
clutching for straws here. Thank you for your help.

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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2019, 05:32:02 PM »
It is a farily "classical" sort of shape, but I haven't a clue how long it might have been around. I'd imagine several centuries, maybe longer, given there really IS nothing new under the sun, as we keep on finding out.  ;D
Your excellent photos were just a reminder to me to pass that tip about looking at wear on, in case you didn't know. :)

I mentioned Japan, because I know they were making Uranium glass again, and because this is the sort of classical shape their current output can use, along with fairly retro sorts of Carnaby-alike items. A lot of it is really quite nice.  :)

On the other hand, S&W often surprise me.  ;D
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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2019, 08:36:27 PM »
Difficult without seeing it but I'd say not new. Possibly 1860 ish?
I would have thought uranium and that finish maybe Josephinenhutte as a possible?
Is the foot applied?

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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2019, 11:49:27 PM »
I have something very similar, I'll dig out a picture  ;D

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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2019, 12:03:04 AM »
Me too!!

Below are quick reference shots of my vase in poor lighting conditions. It is 9 3/4 inch (almost 25 cm) high. And as seen it has a "fold over rim" and an "increasing body width" (bottom to top). There is a neatly finshed, smoothed pontil scar (partial circle) within a shallow concave and smooth underside of the foot. And a basal rim which has wear pattern that does suggest some age.

The frosting covers the whole of the outside of the body from the edge of the foot (whole upper surface) to the top of the neck below the folded rim. But the underside of the rim is not frosted. The frosting starts again at the lower edge of the folded rim up to the top of the inner surface of the vase.

I cannot yet produce a good image of the underside of the foot - it needs daylight to do that, and it is now past 1:30 am!!

The final photo shows the strong UV glow. (Mains powered uv light at distance of about 12 inch / 30,5 cm).

Until Legsy showed their example I had not seen another of this type. I bought mine at an Antiques & Collectables Fair sometime in the early to mid 1990s. The seller suggested the colour was "Apple Green" (and I think they mentioned Stevens & Williams or Richardson's, neither of which I have been able to confirm or deny).

Edited to add: In response to m's query re the foot - my vase foot does seem to be applied to the base of the main body. It's hard to be sure because of the frosting of the outer surface but there is a "defined crease" that I do not think is simply a fold line due to change of direction. Also looking through the centre of the vase from the top, there is no sign of a hollowness below the main body .... just dust and stuff since I last washed it all those years ago.  :)
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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2019, 02:34:20 AM »
It also occurs to me that I am either having a moment of déjà vu, or I may actually have commented on a similar item some time ago.

I have found four photos of my vase in my "Message Board" folder for "glass images". Those photos are dated 2018-05-09. Must have a look back through some threads.
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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2019, 05:28:40 AM »
My thoughts would be Josephinenhutte or Schachtenbach maybe?

But just suggestions.

m

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Re: Stylish Jade Green Uranium Glass Vase Frosted Outside
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2019, 05:36:52 AM »
See this comment from Mike and the rest of the thread for my lustre in satin green uranium glass :

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,45325.msg253389.html#msg253389

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