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Offline Bernard C

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Grey pigeon paperweight?
« on: May 04, 2009, 09:31:01 PM »
Sorry, no picture as the camera is packed.

Neck is grey & black striped, body is grey scales on black with the scales turning white and ending with a tiny bubble.   All thickly cased in crystal.   No signature.

5" from beak to fan tail, 4¼" high, 1lb 1½oz 501g.

Any ideas?

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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 09:52:12 PM »
Of course you know what we are going to say: We Will Need A Picture before we can begin to speculate about Marcolin or Formia.

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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 10:50:48 PM »
I know, Ivo, it's just what I would have said.   :(

I will try to find the camera.

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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 01:27:11 AM »
I will try to find the camera.
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Did you find the camera? Any chance of a picture!  ;)

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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 06:28:38 PM »
Quote from: inca
...   Did you find the camera?   ...

No, it was packed below the tent in the car, and, once you have everything packed in the right order, you don't move it.   So please excuse the interlude.




Click on the above image for picture gallery

... and apologies again to everyone for the delay.

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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 09:36:11 PM »
Ivo may have been on the right track when he mentioned Marcolin. I haven't seen your exact bird, but it looks like something FM Konstglas could have made. The only other company I know that did similar things is V. Nason of Murano.
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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2009, 12:20:24 AM »
My guess would be V. Nason, Murano.

I don't think this is Marcolin/FM Konstglas or Formia.

I haven't seen much with the grey effect from Formia, here's a a Formia cat as reference.

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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2009, 06:04:48 AM »
Ingela — Thanks for the link — I knew I had seen the same style somewhere when I bought the pigeon, but I couldn't remember where.

In my opinion your cat and my pigeon are not only the same range from the same glassworks, but from the same gaffer.   Checking Formia's website shows a identically shaped pigeon with the same cut fan tail on page 72 of their current liriche (lyrics) catalogue (sorry — I can't find a direct link to the page).   My pigeon has a rib count at the neck of 16;  what is the count for your cat?

What do others think?   Am I correct in thinking that Ingela's cat and my pigeon are the same Formia range from the same gaffer, or is this a universal style that was made elsewhere?

Any enlightenment on pattern name and production dates?

Bernard C.  8)

Cautionary note:  As I thought of this as a glass animal, not a PW, I put it on a south-facing window ledge.   Yesterday afternoon I tried to pick it up, and it was too hot to hold, so I let it cool down very slowly wrapped in dry towels.   I am supposed to be too experienced to make stupid mistakes like that!
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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2009, 06:31:24 AM »
seeing cat and Ingela's input I'd have no problem to define your pigeon as Formia.

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Re: Grey pigeon paperweight?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2009, 05:11:15 PM »
Ho hum.   Searches are much more productive if you look for Formia dove rather than Formia pigeon.   What a difference a word can make!

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