Topic: Opaline (?) white, enamelled, gilded, goblet/vase with lettering

[catshome]

I have been following some of the threads on opaline  glass, but didn't have any in my collection.  Early for an appointment Today, I was killing time and trying to stay out of the rain and I saw this and was very tempted to buy it, but I'm not supposed to be buying - am supposed to be reducing.  I took some embarrassingly bad pictures on phone so that I could do a bit of research, just for fun.  Now I'm thinking I should go back tomorrow.......

Approx. 7" high X 3" rim diameter.  Did I get it right.....opaline?  It looks white, but it has a pale bluey grey tone to it.  I thought, at the time, maybe it should have had a cover, but I keep thinking about the rim, which was flat and gilded, with possibly a slight bevel to the inner edge.

Eight panels and an eight petal base, which is quite chunky, not quite flat.  Good age appropriate wear to very flat base rim around a minimally concave polished base.

The reason I think I should have bought it is that I haven't found any opaline glass with lettering on it.  I did take shots of all eight letters, but I can't remember what the order was on the piece.  They look like EML KUL and two that I can't decipher .  The enamel flowers look hand painted.

Should I be camping outside the shop tonight?  Worse still, I didn't buy what appears from my research to be a 10" ribbed barovier  & toso vase.  I just wasn't sure as the gold in the clear looked like sand, and was completely random in the ribs.

Hoping to be wrong
Cat

I really am so sorry about the pictures but I am struggling to transfer them from the phone to the iPad and then get them onto the GMB.  I will keep trying!

[catshome]

After an hour on the live chat with Romeo at BT, I have the promise of a new Hub.  Finally given up trying to transfer photos from phone or ipad to laptop.  Even sent them to son Pete and he emailed them to me, and that didn't work either.  So I have taken photographs of the ipad images......which really just compounds the awfulness of the camera pics, but I am desperate to put them on tonight.

So here they are... hopefully.....and with profuse apologies.

I see it has cropped the top of the image.  There are about four rows of the gilding.  The banded part of the top is very slightly stepped in from the body.

[flying free]

was it expensive?

If not I'd buy it

It's ... I think.... Hungarian.

I'd def buy it if only because I never see any.  And I sold the only piece I had without realising what it was, to someone who was so delighted they wrote to tell me so

(or maybe Bohemian possibly, but the enamel letter are Hungarian)
http://gyujtemeny.imm.hu/gyujtemeny/talpas-emlekpohar-furdokura-pohar-herkulesfurdorol-mehadiai-emlek-felirattal/13318?i=902


m

[flying free]

see above and yes, possibly Bohemian but Hungarian enamel greeting (spa becher I think)
http://collections.imm.hu/gyujtemeny/cup/41080?ds=eyJxIjoiZ2xhc3MifQ%3D%3D&i=656

[catshome]

Hi M, I was hoping you were still up!  Thank you for the prompt reply.  The writing on the second link was spot on....there is a small bump on some of the letters in the same place on both.  I was thinking bohemian after looking at more images online.  I think it was £9.50, which doesn't sound like much now, but felt like a lot at the time.  What do you think it is? Do you think it would have had a cover?  And does it matter if it's missing if it did?  My gut says c.1890.  My gut also says I should have bought the other vase 🙄

[flying free]

Think it might be earlier perhaps.
They are not often seen with the Hungarian enamel greeting though I can tell you that.
I don't think it will have had a lid.
Many bechers have an inset rim like that.  They are decorative I believe,souvenirs.

[flying free]

see above and sorry I don't know anything about Italian glass.

[catshome]

Sorry M, missed the word becher somehow.

Three hours sleep and a twenty mile round trip......really hope the glass gods are smiling today!

[chopin-liszt]

I can see a blue-ish haze in some of those pics, indicating (to me) that it might well be opalescent glass rather than plain white opaline.
Which makes it far more desirable as far as I'm concerned. 
The flowers look like a transfer print, though. 

[flying free]

did you buy it?

Sue, it may just be a very pale bluey white alabasterglas.

I don't know about the flowers - will hold view until we see the becher.

But either way, they aren't seen that often so I would have to have it and examine it and research it in minute detail 

m